Although is a 5.700 meters of elevation routet, the climb is more like Liège than Lombardia. And the opposite of the long mountains of TDF.
I know this is hyperbole but can you imagine 30 13 km laps, almost 400 kms? Would be crazyI might be mistaken, but I think the climb is only 2.5km aswell, done 30 times.
I think we are getting too ahead of ourselves predicting the participants and the favourites for the Worlds in 2027.
Pogačar wins solo after attacking on the penultimate climb, riding the final 20 km alone in the rain like a caffeinated angel in white.
Minor point, but when did Sky win 7 consecutive Tours? Nibali won the Tour in 2014.You mean Sky, which won 7 consecutive Tours with 4 riders, didn't have two speeds?
Done 20 times which is still a 6 and a half hour or longer day with 50km of climbing of over 9%.I might be mistaken, but I think the climb is only 2.5km aswell, done 30 times. Not the best, but the elevation should help him at least. Hopefully, he’s at the start that I fully agree on for sure.
At the moment, he's still in the provisional startlist but still no confirmation from UAE. Won't be shocked if he skips.Will Pog race AGR?
Thank you. I would love him to race.At the moment, he's still in the provisional startlist but still no confirmation from UAE. Won't be shocked if he skips.
All depends on his recovery after Roubaix and if he wants to just rest until LBL.Thank you. I would love him to race.
I would have thought we would know by now if it was going to be droppedAt the moment, he's still in the provisional startlist but still no confirmation from UAE. Won't be shocked if he skips.
In 1980 (Hinault) they had to climb Côte de Domancy 20 times which is 2.6km @ 8.6%In 1980, it was over 6,000 meters
The incredible thing is that De Vlaeminck was in the top 10. At that time, cyclists were strongest in all routes nad moved out of their comfort zones; out of necessity, they were more complete and achieved decent results on routes that weren't suitable for them.
I can't imagine Van der Poel, Pedersen, and even less Philipsen, making the top 10 in a world championship like this. Only Van Aert in 2022-23.
Compared to Boonen and Van der Poel, De Vlaeminck was a monster capable of finishing to 10 in a world championship with over 6,000 meters of elevation gain. Insane
In 1980 (Hinault) they had to climb Côte de Domancy 20 times which is 2.6km @ 8.6%
But how soon we forget. There are two relatively recent worlds which had about 5,000 metres elevation gain:
Mendrisio 2009 was 4,819 metres elevation - won by Cadel Evans
Innsbruk 2018 was 5,020 metres elevation - won by Valverde
Someone up thread mentioned Vingegaard riding the worlds. I'd actually love to see that. But doesn't Vingegaard need much longer Cat 1 or HC climbs that we would never get in a worlds course? To be a contender at the worlds Vingegaard needs longer, steep climbs not just a big elevation gain over many smaller climbs - that would advantage the punchier Pogacar.
Typo. It will be a brutal course for sure. So 26 Montreal and 27 Haute-Savoie I mean these are all Pog walkovers in theory... Are we still on for Rwanda in 2025, or have they taken a knee yet?Done 20 times which is still a 6 and a half hour or longer day with 50km of climbing of over 9%.
Each climb is probably around 9 minutes which is quite short but the cumulative impact will sap the field significantly.
Vingegaard has a total of six appearances between Liège and Lombardia. In none of them he was competitive.2-3 km climb and reasonably steep (i.e. 8%+) is on the edge of Vingo's striking zone. If he's in form and total elevation gain is huge (i.e. Liege on steroids) then he's definitely a serious candidate for podium but beating Pogi is obviously difficult.
As it stands the top 3 at 2024 TdF are the clear cut favourites as we know it fits Pogacar perfectly, Jonas is the best or next best climber in the world and the climbs are long enough to not be about pure punch with only the one day experience lacking. Remco can tick the box of winning very long single day races with significant elevation in LBL and winning championship races that have a different dynamic to riding for your usual trade team.2-3 km climb and reasonably steep (i.e. 8%+) is on the edge of Vingo's striking zone. If he's in form and total elevation gain is huge (i.e. Liege on steroids) then he's definitely a serious candidate for podium but beating Pogi is obviously difficult.
The only tactic Vingegaard needs is long-range defence. He will be Pogi's shadow until the last climb.As it stands the top 3 at 2024 TdF are the clear cut favourites as we know it fits Pogacar perfectly, Jonas is the best or next best climber in the world and the climbs are long enough to not be about pure punch with only the one day experience lacking. Remco can tick the box of winning very long single day races with significant elevation in LBL and winning championship races that have a different dynamic to riding for your usual trade team.
Riding radio free suits Tadej and Remco who both like to attack when the feeling is right but is more discomfiting for Jonas who has a more meticulous planned out approach.
Very doubtful. 6 minutes isn't that short.by 2027 Nys could evolve in one of the best on short climbs too
I think he can win the treble. Then he can prepare to the TdF.All depends on his recovery after Roubaix and if he wants to just rest until LBL.
Very doubtful. 6 minutes isn't that short.
Needs to make a pretty impossible improvement at them.he'll get better by then
Certainly should be. They all know now that even letting him get 5 bike lengths is fatal for their chances unless you have unparalleled explosiveness like MVDP to practically teleport across 5 second gaps.The only tactic Vingegaard needs is long-range defence. He will be Pogi's shadow until the last climb.
I have my doubts.2-3 km climb and reasonably steep (i.e. 8%+) is on the edge of Vingo's striking zone.
Well, he should be the favorite for the Ardennes treble but it depends how much he has after doing both Flanders and Roubaix.I think he can win the treble. Then he can prepare to the TdF.
Tour de France stage 1 in 2023 and stage 2 in 2024 beg to differ. He's perfectly fine on climbs of that length.I have my doubts.