Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Christen will ride a hard pace up Redoute and Pog will take off.

Christen will not race LBL.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Bruyneel said they usually get caught.

Betancur put everyone on the ropes 12/13 years ago. A better puncheur like Purito would be even more difficult to catch.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think that was because his rivals knew Valverde was the best sprinter of any elite climber?

When Valverde won the 2018 worlds (5,000 metres of climbing) that was on a much steeper and also longer finishing climb than Mur de Huy. It was a race of attrition with Valverde hanging onto Michael Woods and Bardet on the steepest section then predictably out sprinting them when they couldn't drop him on the monstrously steep climb.

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How many great classicomanos (and climbers) did we have 7 years ago? Valverde would get dropped in a course like that against Remco or Pogacar.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Same amount of pages as the Remco thread, but not yet the same amount of posts.
Is that even legal?

 

[SHAD0W93]

Same amount of pages as the Remco thread, but not yet the same amount of posts.
Is that even legal?

Give it till Sunday.

 

[YavorD]

Same amount of pages as the Remco thread, but not yet the same amount of posts.
Is that even legal?

The explanation is very simple, the last page on Remco's thread has nore post than the last page of Pogacar's thread.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Give it till Sunday.

Who wins LBL will take the lead eheheh

 

[Peyroteo94]

Weather is not good for a long range attack. Sunny day with a headwind of 10 kph. I hope Pogacar (if he is able to drop Remco on Redoute) waits for Remco on Redoute in order to have help until Roche aux Faucons.

 

[YavorD]

Weather is not good for a long range attack. Sunny day with a headwind of 10 kph. I hope Pogacar (if he is able to drop Remco on Redoute) waits for Remco on Redoute in order to have help until Roche aux Faucons.

I don't see a scenario where Pogacar attacks and then stops to wait.
If he doesn't want to be alone, he will simply wait for Evenepoel's attack on Redoute.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Weather is not good for a long range attack. Sunny day with a headwind of 10 kph. I hope Pogacar (if he is able to drop Remco on Redoute) waits for Remco on Redoute in order to have help until Roche aux Faucons.

I wouldnt expect this kind of tactical brilliance from Teddy, whose default tactic is simply pushing more watts.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I don't see a scenario where Pogacar attacks and then stops to wait.
If he doesn't want to be alone, he will simply wait for Evenepoel's attack on Redoute.

Maybe, but I think it depends on how strong UAE will be. Sivakov is in terrible shape since he got sick in PN so I believe only McNulty will be with Pogacar until la Redoute. I don't know how can he gamble with Remco if McNulty gets dropped there.

 

[Cycling111]

Maybe, but I think it depends on how strong UAE will be. Sivakov is in terrible shape since he got sick in PN so I believe only McNulty will be with Pogacar until la Redoute. I don't know how can he gamble with Remco if McNulty gets dropped there.

Christen should go to Liège.
Remco is going to Romandy and will be in Liège.

Once again, UAE prioritizes performing at their best in other races, as if they´re Astana, needing wins and points.

Christen going to Romandy from Liège shouldn't be a problem. He's not obligated to win in Romandy. The UAE's priority should be supporting their leader, not keeping everyone fresh for other races.

This is what happened with Wellens. They've taken him to so many races that when he's had to be in the Monuments, he's been exhausted and involved in accidents, probably due to this exhaustion.
Wellens wasn't a rider who crashed so many times; fatigue often plays a role.

The UAE's poor management at Amstel precipitated Pogacar's attack.
He probably has no choice but to play the race at La Redoute, although Rouche aux Faucons would be a better point for him

 

[YavorD]

Maybe, but I think it depends on how strong UAE will be. Sivakov is in terrible shape since he got sick in PN so I believe only McNulty will be with Pogacar until la Redoute. I don't know how can he gamble with Remco if McNulty gets dropped there.

I do agree that UAE look a bit weak. Maybe Soudal will be the ones willing to make the race?

 

[Red Rick]

Lads, it's time to go back to fantasyland where UAE is a weak team despite being by far the best team in Fleche Wallone and controlling it halfway up the Mur de Huy with ease.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I wouldnt expect this kind of tactical brilliance from Teddy, whose default tactic is simply pushing more watts.

He did this already a couple of times. RVV and SB.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Christen should go to Liège.
Remco is going to Romandy and will be in Liège.

Once again, UAE prioritizes performing at their best in other races, as if they´re Astana, needing wins and points.

Christen going to Romandy from Liège shouldn't be a problem. He's not obligated to win in Romandy. The UAE's priority should be supporting their leader, not keeping everyone fresh for other races.

This is what happened with Wellens. They've taken him to so many races that when he's had to be in the Monuments, he's been exhausted and involved in accidents, probably due to this exhaustion.
Wellens wasn't a rider who crashed so many times; fatigue often plays a role.

The UAE's poor management at Amstel precipitated Pogacar's attack.
He probably has no choice but to play the race at La Redoute, although Rouche aux Faucons would be a better point for him

I agree with you. A shame he is not doing LBL, specially when Romandie is easy in the first 4 days.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Lads, it's time to go back to fantasyland where UAE is a weak team despite being by far the best team in Fleche Wallone and controlling it halfway up the Mur de Huy with ease.

You take Christen out of UAE team and his team would look a lot worse.

 

[YavorD]

This is what happened with Wellens. They've taken him to so many races that when he's had to be in the Monuments, he's been exhausted and involved in accidents, probably due to this exhaustion.
Wellens wasn't a rider who crashed so many times; fatigue often plays a role.

Wellens had the same schedule before the monuments he usually has. The only difference last year was that Ruta del Sol was only one day.

So you are once again making a fictional things blaming the schedule for his incidents.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Wellens had the same schedule before the monuments he usually has. The only difference last year was that Ruta del Sol was only one day.

So you are once again making a fictional things blaming the schedule for his incidents.

Wellens and Narvaez got hampered by crashes. We all see how valuable they are in MSR.

 

[Cycling111]

Wellens had the same schedule before the monuments he usually has. The only difference last year was that Ruta del Sol was only one day.

So you are once again making a fictional things blaming the schedule for his incidents.

Last year, Pogacar did the Giro, not the cobbles classics.

The fictional is to compare domestique´s (or UAE) last year calendar with this year's calendar, when Pogacar's calendar is completely different.

 

[YavorD]

Last year, Pogacar did the Giro, not the cobbles classics.

The fictional is to compare domestique´s (or UAE) last year calendar with this year's calendar, when Pogacar's calendar is completely different.

You were talking about Wellens specifically and his schedule, blaming it for his crashes
You can check for yourself that he always had the same or heavier schedule.

 

[YavorD]

Wellens and Narvaez got hampered by crashes. We all see how valuable they are in MSR.

Where did I say something different?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Where did I say something different?

Did I say you said something different? I just said we didn't have the opportunity to see Wellens and Narvaez as domestiques in critical part of races because they crashed. This is also the reason why UAE was weak in a couple of classics this year.

 

[Savant12]

Sad that they're not taking Christen to LBL. He looks to be on super form.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Sad that they're not taking Christen to LBL. He looks to be on super form.

Now, only McNulty can give some hope to Pogacar. McNulty needs to survive to La Redoute in the top15 and then Pogacar will do the final attack on Roche aux Faucons.