Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Valv.Piti]

Expect him to go hard in the next two stages and then take it easy preparing for the Vuelts. So the last week, should be breakaway heaven.

Naaah. Pog wants to win at least on one off Loze or Ventoux. Ventoux is especially easy to control

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

All 3 in one calendar year. Put off MSR and Roubaix a bit, and get the Triple Crown.

 

[Savant12]

He might be at his best. There's not a lot of evidence he isn't compared to before. Basically, when you're forced to go into the red earlier to match a better biker, you simply drop a bit if not crack. Vingo wasn't particularly well test the two years he won.

Vingo is a long way off his 2023 Tour form. Yes, Pog has improved a lot but crashes have hurt Vingo's ability to compete with him.

 

[Mina.S]

To be honest still don’t think he’s riding the Vuelta. The team wants him to but he said he isn’t sure. It’s very close to worlds.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Naaah. Pog wants to win at least on one off Loze or Ventoux. Ventoux is especially easy to control

He will win more because teams fighting for the podium will work.
Mont Ventoux and the MTT are locked.

 

[Cycling111]

To be honest still don’t think he’s riding the Vuelta. The team wants him to but he said he isn’t sure. It’s very close to worlds.

The Montreal and Sallanches World Championships are also good for him, and he knows the circuits.
He's not going to wait until 2028, year of the UAE sprinter world championship.
He could've an accident or decline in level at 30.
Tour-Vuelta is very physically demanding; perhaps in 2028, he won't be doing so easily.

At Dauphiné, he already said that the Rwanda World Championships will be complicated due to the travel and because he doesn't know the circuit. I think he thinks it's the one of the three world championships he'll sacrifice.

 

[Offline]

He will win more because teams fighting for the podium will work.
Mont Ventoux and the MTT are locked.

Fore sure i’ll go for Mont Ventoux and Loze. He wants make a point like yesterday.
And also sent a message to Prodhomme that clearly wanted to make it hard for Pogacar with adding all climbs Pogacar have been dropped and removed bonus points.

 

[Cycling111]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1946082692581200137

View: https://x.com/BV7466895497475/status/1946082692581200137?t=Oe2TsWt7lAKFdSYvwMaMRA&s=19

 

[Krzysztof_O]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1946082692581200137

View: https://x.com/BV7466895497475/status/1946082692581200137?t=Oe2TsWt7lAKFdSYvwMaMRA&s=19

Interesting. It's clear that Vingo paid for his effort in the last part of the climb but you know what? So did Pogacar! His pacing is actually similar to Vingo's but at a much higher level (his gain consistently at almost 11 seconds per km). He crushed other guys in 7.5 km but his gains in the last 4.5 km were relatively modest (Lipo was almost as fast).

 

[Peyroteo94]

11'20". Pogacar was smiling on Col du Solour ( When Yates was pulling and Matteo was struggling)... Visma should have seen this video.

View: https://youtu.be/24cA7lpwhnU?si=gmjljhqnHyhzIg6E

 

[Cycling111]

They always criticize Pogacar or Remco for having a bad moment, but anyone can have one when things aren't going well.

They're human, but some use specific moments to define people we don't know.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945988283785175147

View: https://x.com/lucasaganronald/status/1945988283785175147?t=cK7UOkdGkGyXNPxsjELG9g&s=19

 

[Peyroteo94]

They always criticize Pogacar or Remco for having a bad moment, but anyone can have one when things aren't going well.

They're human, but some use specific moments to define people we don't know.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945988283785175147

View: https://x.com/lucasaganronald/status/1945988283785175147?t=cK7UOkdGkGyXNPxsjELG9g&s=19

It's hard to have a defeat like yesterday. I understand why he is so upset. However, if it was Pogacar, he would called arrogant, tiktoker, new Armstrong, etc.

 

[Peyroteo94]

11'20". Pogacar was smiling on Col du Solour ( When Yates was pulling and Matteo was struggling)... Visma should have seen this video.

View: https://youtu.be/24cA7lpwhnU?si=gmjljhqnHyhzIg6E

According Matxin, the aero bike (Y1RS) is only 300g heavier than the climbing bike (V5RS) and it's better above 18 kph compared to the V5RS.

 

[No Excuses]

He will win more because teams fighting for the podium will work.
Mont Ventoux and the MTT are locked.

Think so, too. Ventoux might be the next bomb of Narvaez.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Think so, too. Ventoux might be the next bomb of Narvaez.

I don't believe. Pogacar will not launch so early this time.

 

[Red Rick]

Interesting. It's clear that Vingo paid for his effort in the last part of the climb but you know what? So did Pogacar! His pacing is actually similar to Vingo's but at a much higher level (his gain consistently at almost 11 seconds per km). He crushed other guys in 7.5 km but his gains in the last 4.5 km were relatively modest (Lipo was almost as fast).

Haven't seen pacing like this since Quintana decided to start Alpe d'Huez at Pantani pace only to be 3 minutes slower.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Interesting. It's clear that Vingo paid for his effort in the last part of the climb but you know what? So did Pogacar! His pacing is actually similar to Vingo's but at a much higher level (his gain consistently at almost 11 seconds per km). He crushed other guys in 7.5 km but his gains in the last 4.5 km were relatively modest (Lipo was almost as fast).

Did you see their climbing times after 2 km? They were crushing Riis's record.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Did you see their climbing times after 2 km? They were crushing Riis's record.

Pogacar was easily on the right pace halfway through the climb. He slowed down in the last 5-6 km (he cooked himself a bit). Factors that prevented the record was 1) almost the lack of drafting (strong pacing doms in the first half of the climb would help) 2) Too thermonuclear start 3) Difficult weather conditions.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Pogacar was easily on the right pace halfway through the climb. He slowed down in the last 5-6 km (he cooked himself a bit). Factors that prevented the record was 1) almost the lack of drafting (strong pacing doms in the first half of the climb would help) 2) Too thermonuclear start 3) Difficult weather conditions.

4) Full gas all day 5) Crash. I think a lot were cooked from going all out on the flats for 3+ hours yday and 2,5 hours today in the heat. Has to play a pretty big part.

Ventoux will be glorious! A lot of times to look at and compare as well, although Ventoux is a weird climb with its very different wind and weather conditions.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Haven't seen pacing like this since Quintana decided to start Alpe d'Huez at Pantani pace only to be 3 minutes slower.

Pogi still fared quite well: just 25 seconds off the record.

 

[YavorD]

Did you see their climbing times after 2 km? They were crushing Riis's record.

Because Riis was busy checking his opponents' facial expressions, not setting records at the time.
Once Bjarne was fully committed to the task, there was no stopping.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Expect him to go hard in the next two stages and then take it easy preparing for the Vuelts. So the last week, should be breakaway heaven.

He's already struck the decisive blow. Today's TT will be all out and then he can ride conservatively for the rest of the race. I think he will target Mt Ventoux stage though.

 

[BigCoward]

Race all three

I never ever thought it was remotely even worth considering. But now?
If its a easy Giro like last year (but win by one or 2 mins to save yourself rather than 10), he's shown he can back up the tour.
So then he just has to hope for a kind route and weak field at the vuelta.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He can make history in this Tour. 8 stage wins and 3 jerseys.

 

[BubbaChuck]

with all respect to jonas,but easiest tour ever.in large part,cause of rabobank tactics,which plays directly into pogacars hand,lmoa.its hilarius really.thye watched cycling for past 2 years and decided to once again pursue kilojul tactic,lol.this means.they dont understand,why jonas won back in 22/23,nor they understand why will they ship 10 minutes this year.pog hasnot been tired for 2 years and thye go with fatigue,lmaooo.