Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Cycling111]

What do you want him to do? 6 full hard trainings on 6 different days? We don't know what kind of hard training he's doing but I would think he knows what to actually do to be in shape for Sunday.

Besides, overtraining isn't good either.

Nothing will change in a week, nor will it undo the mistake of going to Canada or being sick.

What most people will do is those two high-intensity workouts, and the rest of the days will be riding more slowly and getting used to the altitude.

Nothing will change in a week's preparations for this WC. It's the final fine-tuning.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I have never defended Remco for every reason and even been critical of him, for anyone who has read my posts attentively. But I can't keep quiet when Pog makes excuses, which he absolutely did today (the fact that he did only testifies to his humiliation), and isn't held by the same standards by the GOAT brigade.

Let's agree to disagree.

 

[Peyroteo94]

What do you want him to do? 6 full hard trainings on 6 different days? We don't know what kind of hard training he's doing but I would think he knows what to actually do to be in shape for Sunday.

No, I think he will regret spending so much time enjoying his break after the Tour and his decision of not going to altitude.

 

[Low is rhe new high]

The saddest thing is that Pogacar certainly has few true fans, despite his greatness. It's paradoxical that Jonas or Remco always have a hard core that supports them, regardless of the results. Instead he's practically alone against everyone: foaming haters and so-called "fans" who constantly complain, even after every victory (because he didn't win more stages, because he only won by 30 seconds, because he waited until the last kilometers, etc.). The latter are even the worst. This is truly sad.

What about Mou?

 

[Cycling111]

His "arrogance" is other thing. He underestimated Remco. He didn't go to altitude, he didn't prepare the TT conveniently (he wouldn't win even if he did) and I think he will have a surprise next sunday.

No, you underestimated Remco last week, not Pogacar

Pogacar literally said that Remco is the best specialist in the world and that it would be very difficult

And at the road WC, he always says the same thing: that they don't have the ability of teams like Belgium. He knows, and he says, that Remco has that advantage, and that it's more difficult for them (Slovenia)

After Zurich, he emphasized how difficult it had been for him to win a WC and how important it was for Slovenia because it's very difficult for them.

I don't think he'll lose the WC due to arrogance. He knows it was difficult to win one and that Slovenia isn't Belgium or France. He won't be able to control it, and it will all depend on him against the rest of the world.

He said that. Training is what he has to do. Two intense workouts the last week and the rest at a slower pace. He's not going to overtrain for seven days.

 

[Jack_89]

What about Mou?

who the fxxx cares about mou? he's a mad dog

 

[Cycling111]

The saddest thing is that Pogacar certainly has few true fans, despite his greatness. It's paradoxical that Jonas or Remco always have a hard core that supports them, regardless of the results. Instead he's practically alone against everyone: foaming haters and so-called "fans" who constantly complain, even after every victory (because he didn't win more stages, because he only won by 30 seconds, because he waited until the last kilometers, etc.). The latter are even the worst. This is truly sad.

The one who's being the hardest on him is the one who said he'd sweep the time trial.Pogacar never said anything like that, and now he's arrogant. It's kind of strange

That said, I also don't like fans of other riders who spend all year making excuses and then come to Pogacar's thread to accuse him of the things his favorite riders do and they justify them
It's a constant contradiction.

And it's really sad to see that with all the races Pogacar wins, some forum members are in his thread only today, saying all the negative things.
But this is always the case. When he wins, they make clinical insinuations. The other day, they posted a photo in the Montreal thread with very bad intentions. Today, the best wins, no suspicions or bad comments, and they bring out all the negative things on the one who doesn't win, not the clinical ones, just not today.

 

[Low is rhe new high]

who the fxxx cares about mou? he's a mad dog

Maybe he is Pogs only true fan? The one that is not a fair whether fan boy.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The one who's being the hardest on him is the one who said he'd sweep the time trial.Pogacar never said anything like that, and now he's arrogant. It's kind of strange

That said, I also don't like fans of other riders who spend all year making excuses and then jump into Pogacar's thread to accuse him of the things his riders do and justify them.
It's a constant contradiction.

And it's really sad to see that with all the money Pogacar makes, some forum members are in his thread today, saying all the negative things.
But this is always the case. When he wins, they make clinical insinuations. The other day, they posted a photo in the Montreal thread with very bad intentions. Today, the best wins, and they bring out all the negative things on the one who doesn't win, not the clinical ones, just not today.

Haters will always come out when Pogacar fails. This happens with all champions. Fortunately they spend most of the time in the Clinic because Pogacar is winning almost everything.

 

[HashRouge]

His "arrogance" is other thing. He underestimated Remco. He didn't go to altitude, he didn't prepare the TT conveniently (he wouldn't win even if he did) and I think he will have a surprise next sunday.

You know it doesn't matter if he doesn't win everything, right? It's a weird old world with Pogacar - his detractors hate him when he wins, but some of his fans seem to hate him when he loses. The WC RR is hard to win and Pogacar knows that, I doubt he's just planning to roll up to the start line expecting to win, but what do I know.

 

[Cycling111]

Maybe he is Pogs only true fan? The one that is not a fair whether fan boy.

That guy insulted him, and his girlfriend too.

To be a fan like that, it's better not to be one. He wasn't doing Pogacar any good.

 

[Monsi]

Besides, overtraining isn't good either.

Nothing will change in a week, nor will it undo the mistake of going to Canada or being sick.

What most people will do is those two high-intensity workouts, and the rest of the days will be riding more slowly and getting used to the altitude.

Nothing will change in a week's preparations for this WC. It's the final fine-tuning.

Yes. I exaggerated that "6 hard trainings in 6 days". Agree with what you said. He and his team knows what to do this week.

No, I think he will regret spending so much time enjoying his break after the Tour and his decision of not going to altitude.

Whatever happens happens. Shape was fine last week. Just needs some fine-tuning for Sunday plus some acclimating to Rwanda's altitude.

 

[Low is rhe new high]

Haters will always come out when Pogacar fails. This happens with all champions. Fortunately they spend most of the time in the Clinic because Pogacar is winning almost everything.

I understand thats why you’re do all that posting in the Remco thread.

 

[Extinction]

Let's agree to disagree.

That's a cop out, when you can't argue otherwise. And I was a big Contador fan.

 

[Peyroteo94]

You know it doesn't matter if he doesn't win everything, right? It's a weird old world with Pogacar - his detractors hate him when he wins, but some of his fans seem to hate him when he loses. The WC RR is hard to win and Pogacar knows that, I doubt he's just planning to roll up to the start line expecting to win, but what do I know.

He talked about the double and for a serious attempt, this was miserable and not because he isn't able to do better. I feel he underestimated the TT and his competition. But let's move on, there is still the RR, a more important goal.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I understand thats why you’re do all that posting in the Remco thread.

Yeah, I really spend a lot of time there... Be able to quote when I say positive things.😉

 

[Peyroteo94]

That's a cop out, when you can't argue otherwise. And I was a big Contador fan.

Oh mate. I already responded to you... you didn't agree with me and I said "Let’s agree to disagree".

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

Heart-breaking.

 

[Cycling111]

Haters will always come out when Pogacar fails. This happens with all champions. Fortunately they spend most of the time in the Clinic because Pogacar is winning almost everything.

I don't know if this is worse or if when he wins they're posting photos with clinical insinuations.

Today a cyclist is sweeping the field, and it's good. When Pogacar sweeps, you have to post a photo in the Montreal thread and make insinuations other days.

They complain about boredom when he wins, but the boring thing is constantly reading the same complaints and changing those arguments when someone else sweeps the field and he loses.

Today, at times, they celebrated the defeat of one rider more than the victory of another.
Today they were looking forward to Remco passing him.
If it had been him, they would call him arrogant and unnecessary. I've read in some races that he has to win by a smaller margin

But yes, it's a little sad that with all the Pogacar does in cycling, today is the day many people remember his thread. Although this is better than the garbage they throw around when he wins.

Criticizing things that they've constantly been justifying to other cyclists for years is too contradictory


You are being very severe with him today

 

[Peyroteo94]

I don't know if this is worse or if when he wins they're posting photos with clinical insinuations.

Today a cyclist is sweeping the field, and it's good. When Pogacar sweeps, you have to post a photo in the Montreal thread and make insinuations other days.

They complain about boredom when he wins, but the boring thing is constantly reading the same complaints and changing those arguments when someone else sweeps the field and he loses.

Today, at times, they celebrated the defeat of one rider more than the victory of another.
Today they were looking forward to Remco passing him.
If it had been him, they would call him arrogant and unnecessary. I've read in some races that he has to win by a smaller margin

But yes, it's a little sad that with all the Pogacar does in cycling, today is the day many people remember his thread. Although this is better than the garbage they throw around when he wins.

Criticizing things that they've constantly been justifying to other cyclists for years is too contradictory


You are being very severe with him today

Maybe but I'm also hard on Remco or Roglic for example. Today he was miserable and got beaten by a better rider (in fact he got beaten by 3 riders). Now I can say he can't beat Remco in a TT unless it's a MTT or probably a hilly TT in the Tour (he finds magical legs there). Remco is on a different level in the TT when he is good. Even Ganna can't compete with him.

 

[Cycling111]

Maybe but I'm also hard on Remco or Roglic for example. Today he was miserable and got beaten by a better rider (in fact he got beaten by 3 riders). Now I can say he can't beat Remco in a TT unless it's a MTT or probably a hilly TT in the Tour (he finds magical legs there). Remco is on a different level in the TT when he is good. Even Ganna can't compete with him.

It's not wrong to say that he was bad, but criticism is being made beyond his performance.

We should be less critical of the only cyclist who risks being beaten by others on their races

Remco hasn't even debuted in San Remo or Roubaix. Vingegaard hasn't debuted in world championships, either in road or time trials. VDP isn't returning to Strade because it's tougher.

The only cyclist who takes on the challenge of competing in every race is harshly criticized for having a terrible day after a year of challenges.

The winner of the day is Ganna. He's the one who should have been Remco's rival and he won't take any criticism.

Even Pogacar had to take on that challenge, being the greatest rival of another specialist because the second-best specialist, Ganna, and the third-best, Tarling, didn't want to take the risk. Let the one who takes on the challenge take all the blame and take all the criticism that should now go to those who got cold feet and didn't come.

 

[red_flanders]

Only the fans and some media think of this, not Pogacar himself.

Guarantee that dude expects to win every race he targets.

 

[Monsi]

Guarantee that dude expects to win every race he targets.

Of course he wants to win races he targets. But to expect it to be a “walk in the park”? No.

 

[Savant12]

Oh, poor sweetie, it must be hard being you.

Are you not in the Remco thread DAILY “saying all the negative things”? At least the people you complain about only come here once and do not take over another rider-fan thread on a daily basis.

TBF, the fanboyism in the Remco thread is off the charts. How many times the fanboys come out bigging him up to smash Pog in a big race but Remco always flatters to deceive or is MIA....then the excuses come out.

 

[Savant12]

Guarantee that dude expects to win every race he targets.

I feel like he's lost a little of that hunger for victory just because he wins so much and wins convincingly.