Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Cycling111]

He has been with Bonifazio, just like last year, training on the San Remo route.

 

[Berniece]

I can also have a look at Francesco Moser's curriculum and see that it was not better than Pogacar's.

Yet...

Who is the best rider of alltime?

The ProCyclingStats alltime ranking is led by Eddy Merckx with 3859.8 points, before Sean Kelly (2171.1 points) and Francesco Moser (2129.2 points). Considering the enormous gap between Merckx and Kelly (3859.8) we can conclude that Merckx is the best rider of all time.

www.procyclingstats.com

Pogacar will surpass all of them eventually as long as he keeps riding like this. But Moser rode 16 years professionally, so obviously that accumulates more points, even more so when you have 147 wins. Pogacar rode 7 seasons and is almost over all of them, so yeah that ranking seems correct.

 

[AmRacer]

Pogacar will surpass all of them eventually as long as he keeps riding like this. But Moser rode 16 years professionally, so obviously that accumulates more points, even more so when you have 147 wins. Pogacar rode 7 seasons and is almost over all of them, so yeah that ranking seems correct.

Another 400 points season and Pogi is second on the list.

 

[James M]

Why are we still citing PCS as if its a real benchmark for anything we all know better surely?

Unless people simultaneously want to claim Del Toro is the second‑best rider in the world right now and are willing to die on that hill you cant use PCS as a serious measurement. You can’t pick and choose when it counts.

Im a Del Toro enjoyer cause hes talent is intriguing but Its definitely not hard to aknowledge hes not even anywhere near a top‑3 in the world today.

 

[AmRacer]

Why are we still citing PCS as if its a real benchmark for anything we all know better surely?

Unless people simultaneously want to claim Del Toro is the second‑best rider in the world right now and are willing to die on that hill you cant use PCS as a serious measurement. You can’t pick and choose when it counts.

Im a Del Toro enjoyer cause hes talent is intriguing but Its definitely not hard to aknowledge hes not even anywhere near a top‑3 in the world today.

https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/cqAllTimeRanking.asp

 

[tobydawq]

Pogacar will surpass all of them eventually as long as he keeps riding like this. But Moser rode 16 years professionally, so obviously that accumulates more points, even more so when you have 147 wins. Pogacar rode 7 seasons and is almost over all of them, so yeah that ranking seems correct.

No. Pogacar is way ahead of Moser now.

 

[James M]

PCS have the worst ranking imaginable.

It lacks so much context that its impossible to even explain it without laughing out loud.

Another example according to PCS, Viviana is better than Vingegaard…

 

[AmRacer]

It lacks so much context that its impossible to even explain it without laughing out loud.

Another example according to PCS, Viviana is better than Vingegaard…

Viviani is a great point hunter

 

[BubbaChuck]

cycling could use a little more,than just numbers of win.reality is pog would run circles around them and how can be this even debate.peopel act like pogacar is squeizing wins like canibal,while in reality he is beating them like a pinjada.On pure strenght,no tactics.pog is destryoing everbody without sprints or descents.levels.

 

[BubbaChuck]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2012174735795163381

View: https://x.com/opaisdociclismo/status/2012174735795163381

 

[Berniece]

cycling could use a little more,than just numbers of win.reality is pog would run circles around them and how can be this even debate.peopel act like pogacar is squeizing wins like canibal,while in reality he is beating them like a pinjada.On pure strenght,no tactics.pog is destryoing everbody without sprints or descents.levels.

Ah yes, Merckx won 274 times by intelligence

 

[AmRacer]

Ah yes, Merckx won 274 times by intelligence

And luck

 

[Cycling111]

OK, MVDP this year in Strade?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2013887026274197987

View: https://x.com/i/status/2013887026274197987

 

[Berniece]

OK, MVDP this year in Strade?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2013887026274197987

View: https://x.com/i/status/2013887026274197987

Barely makes an impact on the amount of altitude meters, so I would guess he skips it again

 

[Cycling111]

I'm convinced that MVDP would have finished second last year on that route. Without Pogacar, he would have been the clear favorite. You only have to look at his performance in Cipressa or the Tour stage that Abrahamsen won. That day he left Van Aert and other riders in his wake with ease on a short, steep climb

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I'm convinced that MVDP would have finished second last year on that route. Without Pogacar, he would have been the clear favorite. You only have to look at his performance in Cipressa or the Tour stage that Abrahamsen won. That day he left Van Aert and other riders in his wake with ease on a short, steep climb

It would be nice to have MVP in Strade. The organizers did make the route a bit easier probably in response to Teddy's dominance.

 

[Berniece]

It would be nice to have MVP in Strade. The organizers did make the route a bit easier probably in response to Teddy's dominance.

They didn’t really made it easier. This has no impact on a rider like MVDP

 

[James M]

Strade is such a beautiful race. Every top tier one‑day rider should ride it imo. It has it all, just because Pogacar is so dominating doesnt take away from the race and the course itself literally having everything.

Will be nice to see what Del Toro can do here now and glad Van Aert will allegedely ride it. Would liked Remco and MvdP especially ofcourse just to see but its rather stacked this year I feel. Simmons ,Healy etc should do well here.