Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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I can also have a look at Francesco Moser's curriculum and see that it was not better than Pogacar's.

Yet...

Pogacar will surpass all of them eventually as long as he keeps riding like this. But Moser rode 16 years professionally, so obviously that accumulates more points, even more so when you have 147 wins. Pogacar rode 7 seasons and is almost over all of them, so yeah that ranking seems correct.
 
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Pogacar will surpass all of them eventually as long as he keeps riding like this. But Moser rode 16 years professionally, so obviously that accumulates more points, even more so when you have 147 wins. Pogacar rode 7 seasons and is almost over all of them, so yeah that ranking seems correct.
Another 400 points season and Pogi is second on the list.
 
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Why are we still citing PCS as if its a real benchmark for anything we all know better surely?

Unless people simultaneously want to claim Del Toro is the second‑best rider in the world right now and are willing to die on that hill you cant use PCS as a serious measurement. You can’t pick and choose when it counts.

Im a Del Toro enjoyer cause hes talent is intriguing but Its definitely not hard to aknowledge hes not even anywhere near a top‑3 in the world today.
 
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Why are we still citing PCS as if its a real benchmark for anything we all know better surely?

Unless people simultaneously want to claim Del Toro is the second‑best rider in the world right now and are willing to die on that hill you cant use PCS as a serious measurement. You can’t pick and choose when it counts.

Im a Del Toro enjoyer cause hes talent is intriguing but Its definitely not hard to aknowledge hes not even anywhere near a top‑3 in the world today.
 
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Pogacar will surpass all of them eventually as long as he keeps riding like this. But Moser rode 16 years professionally, so obviously that accumulates more points, even more so when you have 147 wins. Pogacar rode 7 seasons and is almost over all of them, so yeah that ranking seems correct.

No. Pogacar is way ahead of Moser now.
 
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cycling could use a little more,than just numbers of win.reality is pog would run circles around them and how can be this even debate.peopel act like pogacar is squeizing wins like canibal,while in reality he is beating them like a pinjada.On pure strenght,no tactics.pog is destryoing everbody without sprints or descents.levels.
 
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cycling could use a little more,than just numbers of win.reality is pog would run circles around them and how can be this even debate.peopel act like pogacar is squeizing wins like canibal,while in reality he is beating them like a pinjada.On pure strenght,no tactics.pog is destryoing everbody without sprints or descents.levels.
Ah yes, Merckx won 274 times by intelligence
 
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I'm convinced that MVDP would have finished second last year on that route. Without Pogacar, he would have been the clear favorite. You only have to look at his performance in Cipressa or the Tour stage that Abrahamsen won. That day he left Van Aert and other riders in his wake with ease on a short, steep climb
 
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I'm convinced that MVDP would have finished second last year on that route. Without Pogacar, he would have been the clear favorite. You only have to look at his performance in Cipressa or the Tour stage that Abrahamsen won. That day he left Van Aert and other riders in his wake with ease on a short, steep climb

It would be nice to have MVP in Strade. The organizers did make the route a bit easier probably in response to Teddy's dominance.
 
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Strade is such a beautiful race. Every top tier one‑day rider should ride it imo. It has it all, just because Pogacar is so dominating doesnt take away from the race and the course itself literally having everything.

Will be nice to see what Del Toro can do here now and glad Van Aert will allegedely ride it. Would liked Remco and MvdP especially ofcourse just to see but its rather stacked this year I feel. Simmons ,Healy etc should do well here.
 
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They didn’t really made it easier. This has no impact on a rider like MVDP
it is a little easier - but agree it will have no impact on MVDP. Practically whilst the finish is as it is and Pog is as he is they could remove virtually all gravel sectors and Pog would still be the heavy favourite.
 
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They didn’t really made it easier. This has no impact on a rider like MVDP

Still, it would be great if an ATG classics rider like MVP rode it again (esp. given his past success there), even if the race changes made it more difficult for him to win. For example another ATG classics rider (Pogacar) is trying an all-out classics attack which also includes some races that are less suited to him (like MSR or PR).
 
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Still, it would be great if an ATG classics rider like MVP rode it again (esp. given his past success there), even if the race changes made it more difficult for him to win. For example another ATG classics rider (Pogacar) is trying an all-out classics attack which also includes some races that are less suited to him (like MSR or PR).
Sure, but MVDP isn't Pogacar
 
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Do we expect anything from Van Gils in Strade? He was impressive in 24 and throughout, but more or less ghosted last year. Do we expect him to have some kind of renaissance this year?