Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[canina82]

How did you calculate that?

This will be a long season for Pogacar non fans. Unless he crashes, he will be 2 steps above everyone in his terrain.
I will just leave here some numbers:
Peyragudes - 2002 m/h (a fresh effort in 2025)

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Pogacar in February (photo number 10):
VAM - 2010 m/h for almost half an hour (and looking to the speed, we are probably talking about a 8-9% climb.

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Yes, without any crash, the Tour will be over on Tourmalet.

Pogacar posted it.
VAM of 953m in 28'27" = VAM of 2010 m/h

 

[Red Rick]

Streets won't forget Contador doing 458 watts for 19'59 in the age of not knowing humans need food to do exercise.

 

[rafa92]

For now, team's performance hasn't been good at ITT.
They were average in the Mallorca TTT, although they weren't the best team. In UAE Tour bad, although Del Toro seemed to have a mover wind .

Today was disastrous, with McNulty's mechanical issue as an asterisk. But the fact that the first UAE rider was beaten by the third rider from LIDL, who is a rider from their development team, is striking.

They have a lot of work to do for the Tour de France TTT. I rule them out as having any chance of winning; teams like BORA and LIDL seem far superior in this discipline, and Visma is also very good.

Pogacar posted it.
VAM of 953m in 28'27" = VAM of 2010 m/h

please stop with the nonsense, VAM is already expressed as m/h in the computer, he was probably doing a zone 2 ride

 

[canina82]

please stop with the nonsense, VAM is already expressed as m/h in the computer, he was probably doing a zone 2 ride

His BPM were at 173. Impossible to be a zone 2 ride.
Edit: but maybe I'm wrong and he was 953m above sea level.

 

[rafa92]

His BPM were at 173. Impossible to be a zone 2 ride.

yes because in that precise moment he was pushing more than 400 watts (410 in the last 3 sec). Even in a zone 2 ride he probably does some short efforts, but I repeat you in the last 30 minutes his vam was 953, probably because the parcours was not all climbing but rather a mixed terrain (typical of the calpe area). If you really believe he was doing a 2010 vam for 30 minutes you are delusional and don't have any idea of how the measure is computed and shown on the computer

 

[James M]

Virtually no real flat for the last 80km of the stage presents the perfect opportunity to strike hard and then keep accumulating a steadily increasing lead as group 2 syndrome kicks in hard

indeed i dont get it what theyre thinking when they clearly emphasize a close race early. Imagine if they think he’ll do nothing. The guy has no chill. Of course he’ll use Tourmalet to create a gap, does the bear *** in the woods...

 

[canina82]

yes because in that precise moment he was pushing more than 400 watts (410 in the last 3 sec). Even in a zone 2 ride he probably does some short efforts, but I repeat you in the last 30 minutes his vam was 953, probably because the parcours was not all climbing but rather a mixed terrain (typical of the calpe area). If you really believe he was doing a 2010 vam for 30 minutes you are delusional and don't have any idea of how the measure is computed and shown on the computer

I already said it is possible that I am wrong. Nothing like see in races what his true level is.

 

[Monsi]

Pogačar must be pretty happy right now knowing he doesn't need to ride the UAE Tour for the coming years.

 

[canina82]

Pogačar must be pretty happy right now knowing he doesn't need to ride the UAE Tour for the coming years.

But he got a challenger in Seixas for the 2028 Olympics.

 

[Oldman]

But he got a challenger in Seixas for the 2028 Olympics.

There are plenty of challengers; few real contenders, though.

 

[Monsi]

But he got a challenger in Seixas for the 2028 Olympics.

As cliche as it may sound, time will tell. Seixas is only 19. He's got a long way to go before reaching peak Remco's level in those types of races, let along Pog's level.

 

[Cycling111]

But he got a challenger in Seixas for the 2028 Olympics.

As they say, time will tell.

A few years ago, people said Pogacar would have an easier time in San Remo today because VDP would be 30. And not only has he not declined, but VDP is stronger now than he was in 2022. He's much more dominant in races like Roubaix now, and I think four years ago VDP wouldn't have climbed the Cipressa like this.

You never know. And maybe it won't be Seixas, but someone else who wins the Tour or Olympics. The most obvious example was Vingegaard. The year Pogacar was winning his first Tour, Vingegaard was just a domestique whom Pogacar had beaten by 40 minutes two years earlier in the Tour de l'Avenir. Two years later, Vingegaard won the Tour.

 

[canina82]

There are plenty of challengers; few real contenders, though.

Probably, the route is perfect for Pogacar