Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[vappa]

Merckx faced much stiffer competition from generational greats like De Vlaeminck, Gimondi and Godefroot.

Explained a bazillion times, just because you win a lot in doesn't mean you're actually THAT good

 

[canina82]

The nonsense of Del Toro as a co leader is finally gone or not?

 

[canina82]

Now he isn’t coming back, msr is going back to where it belongs I.e ciciban. No action until final 5 kms

Some people must have short memory. This race without Pogacar is one of the worst races in the calendar. 6 hours of nothing and 15 minutes of action.

 

[canina82]

The crash wasnt ideal, but it did make the peloton smaller and so on.

Disrupted things.

It never really plays out how one thought it would even though the outcome of it being Pog, Pidcock and MVDP going over the top of Cipressa together was a plausible scenario.

What I take from this edition is Pogacar would demolish MVP last year if he was well positioned like MVP. This year MVP wasn't in the front and was cooked.

 

[Salvarani]

What I take from this edition is Pogacar would demolish MVP last year if he was well positioned like MVP. This year MVP wasn't in the front and was cooked.

I dont believe one can say that or that I can agree with that.

The main difference was Pog just riding the climbs in higher sustained pace for longer, rather than doing 5-6 accelerations imo. He gassed himself doing that last year. It was less stop and go now.

His descending and making them hard after each corner was a difference as well.

There are many things that were different imo.

 

[canina82]

I dont believe one can say that or that I can agree with that.

The main difference was Pog just riding the climbs very hard, rather than doing 5-6 accelerations imo. He gassed himself doing that last year.

The difference was MVP had to go hard in the first part of Cipressa.

 

[Salvarani]

The difference was MVP had to go hard in the first part of Cipressa.

I dont agree.

 

[canina82]

Any news of Christen?
Regarding his team work, what a fantastic job from McNulty. He will do wonders in LBL and the Tour.

 

[The bald fraud]

The difference was MVP had to go hard in the first part of Cipressa.

He needed to go hard before Cipressa because he was also caught by the crash. He could not save enough energy for later.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Three years ago I predicted that Pogacar would never win Milan—San Remo. I admit I was wrong.

 

[James M]

McNulty was an absolute demon and gonne be this year btw, what a ride for Pog there.

Crash, 30sec behind in full speed run in. Close the gap with nuggets + florian, pass whole peloton sets KOM. Gaps MvdP on 4%, i bet Mvdp cant wait for RVV..Tonight we raise our wine glass for the best rider ever. Absolute cinema.

 

[Shortcut]

1. Great win, i think i saw him so happy only after first RVV win and first WC win. 2. I am humbled because of Mcnulty, i was never a fan, no he is my second favourite rider. 3. Pogi still crashed, i wouldn't be so sure RVV is already sure thing. 4. Him never coming back to MSR would be disaster for this race. From best race in the year to boring one again.

 

[iBanesto]

Pogacar moves past Anquetil.

#	Prev.	Diff.	h2hRider	Team	Points
1	1	-	MERCKX Eddy	3859.8
2	2	-	KELLY Sean	2171.1
3	3	-	MOSER Francesco	2129.2
4	4	-	DE VLAEMINCK Roger	2012.5
5	5	-	HINAULT Bernard	2006
6	6	-	VALVERDE Alejandro	1910.5
7	8	▲1	POGAČAR Tadej	UAE Team Emirates - XRG	1868.3
8	7	▼1	ANQUETIL Jacques	1842.2
9	9	-	VAN LOOY Rik	1708.4
10	10	-	JALABERT Laurent	1576.3

 

[canina82]

He is the first rider since Saronni to win MSR with the rainbow jersey.
Only PR is missing right now with this jersey.

 

[dazaau]

He is the first rider since Saronni to win MSR with the rainbow jersey.
Only PR is missing right now with this jersey.

*Most of the rainbow Jersey

 

[the asian]

Hi won't surely ride MSR next year. But he may return someday. He might want to be the first guy to win all Five Monuments at least thrice.

 

[canina82]

Hi won't surely ride MSR next year. But he may return someday. He might want to be the first guy to win all Five Monuments at least thrice.

I don't get it. MSR is very easy to put on his schedule and since he won, he doesn't need to prepare this race like a madman!

 

[AmRacer]

I don't get it. MSR is very easy to put on his schedule and since he won, he doesn't need to prepare this race like a madman!

Think it has to do with motivation and ride races he enjoys. He finally got his win after endless attempts.

 

[canina82]

Think it has to do with motivation and ride races he enjoys. He finally got his win after endless attempts.

This is the point. He can still ride races he enjoys without missing MSR.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Pogacar moves past Anquetil.

#	Prev.	Diff.	h2hRider	Team	Points
1	1	-	MERCKX Eddy	3859.8
2	2	-	KELLY Sean	2171.1
3	3	-	MOSER Francesco	2129.2
4	4	-	DE VLAEMINCK Roger	2012.5
5	5	-	HINAULT Bernard	2006
6	6	-	VALVERDE Alejandro	1910.5
7	8	▲1	POGAČAR Tadej	UAE Team Emirates - XRG	1868.3
8	7	▼1	ANQUETIL Jacques	1842.2
9	9	-	VAN LOOY Rik	1708.4
10	10	-	JALABERT Laurent	1576.3

Alejandro el Grande > Pogi

 

[AmRacer]

This is the point. He can still ride races he enjoys without missing MSR.

He maybe doesn't enjoy MSR, especially now when he has won it.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He maybe doesn't enjoy MSR, especially now when he has won it.

He says he doesn't like doing MSR recons due to dangerous Italian drivers.

 

[Blanco]

Explained a bazillion times, just because you win a lot in doesn't mean you're actually THAT good

It usually means...

 

[canina82]

Merckx faced much stiffer competition from generational greats like De Vlaeminck, Gimondi and Godefroot.

Not this again... don't compare a national sport with 7 or belgians in the top10 of monuments with a global sport now.

 

[canina82]

What a glorious moment, he is the GOAT of this sport.

I can’t help but make a small mention of all the “experts” who said repeating the tactic wasn’t a good idea, or that the team should focus on a two-leader approach with Pogacar and Del Toro. Hilarious, it almost seems like people still haven’t realized by now that Pogacar isn’t just better than the others, he’s much better, both physically and mentally. What a beautiful day.

Great post. He is in a league of his own and will probably have the palmares of Merckx in 4 years.