The biggest fraud and dirtiest guy in the history of cycling. More faster than the guys of 90s. He improved more between 2023/2024 with 26 years, than he improved between 2019/2020 when he was more young.
People that don't know Pogacar aren't even aware Lombardia is a region in Italy let alone Il Lombardia exists let alone betting money on it.I know you are being facetious but current odds were posted in PRR. Its a British site so that probaby explains why Pidcock is 2nd favorite.
Pogacar: 1.22
Pidcock: 15
Evenepoel: 15
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But I am genuinely curious as to why his popularity? Pogacar does not yet have the public awareness outside of cycling that Armstrong had. So I think this diminishes the theory he is too big to fall.
Actually its normal he improve , he enters his peak.26-30 years old are prime time for athletesThe biggest fraud and dirtiest guy in the history of cycling. More faster than the guys of 90s. He improved more between 2023/2024 with 26 years, than he improved between 2019/2020 when he was more young.
Froome improved normally, he entered his peak in 2011 as he turned 26, so of course you'd expect a massive jump in performance.Actually its normal he improve , he enters his peak.26-30 years old are prime time for athletes
The problem is froome was like jonas, when he was younger he was nobodyFroome improved normally, he entered his peak in 2011 as he turned 26, so of course you'd expect a massive jump in performance.
U are missing the point i am not talking he is clean ,i am talking about its normal for athlete to improve when he enters his primeUnfortunately I never experienced the legendary and well-documented 10% increase in power in a few short winter months when I reached 25, too busy drinking and talking to girls I stood absolutely no chance with. No harm in trying I suppose.
It is, we are talking about rate of change though, and yeah it's not just Pogacar.U are missing the point i am not talking he is clean ,i am talking about its normal for athlete to improve when he enters his prime
Massive jumps in performance are less of a problem the better you are, regardless of how much of a jump it is?The problem is froome was like jonas, when he was younger he was nobody
Of course lolMassive jumps in performance are less of a problem the better you are, regardless of how much of a jump it is?
So if Evenepoel gains ~10 % power next season, that's less suss than Karel Vacek gaining 10 %?
The biggest fraud and dirtiest guy in the history of cycling. More faster than the guys of 90s. He improved more between 2023/2024 with 26 years, than he improved between 2019/2020 when he was more young.
At no point did Jonas take a sudden jump absolutely out of nowhere into a type of rider, no one would ever have expected him to be. He improved in leaps for sure, but a number of them, not one of the quantum type, like Froome's. Doesn't change the fact that he's a "dirty doper," but the circumstances of Danish youth cycling and ColoQuick and Visma are very different to those of British cycling and Sky, is all.The problem is froome was like jonas, when he was younger he was nobody
The thing is 25 isn't a human being's physical prime. In cycling that used to be a rider's prime only because the culture around the sport was very stupid.U are missing the point i am not talking he is clean ,i am talking about its normal for athlete to improve when he enters his prime
Everyone is different. When Andy Schleck came runner up at the 2007 Giro at 21 everyone said he was the next big thing, didn't quite work out that way. Andy was an early bloomer. Others are late bloomers. Others have long careers - like Valverde. The best doping doctors in the world don't have all this worked out and that includes Mauro Giannetti.The thing is 25 isn't a human being's physical prime. In cycling that used to be a rider's prime only because the culture around the sport was very stupid.
Come on. He came in second at the Itzulia that year. Ahead of Pogacar. "Suddenly" he was able to do drop Pogacar after doing it a couple of months earlier... Which was also very "sudden" seeing as he won ahead of Pogacar a few months earlier on Jebel Jais. Which actually was somewhat sudden.Vingegaard was already 24 when he arrived from nowhere to drop Pog on Ventoux at the 2021 Tour.
I am not talking about cycling but many different sports, football,basketball,american football etcThe thing is 25 isn't a human being's physical prime. In cycling that used to be a rider's prime only because the culture around the sport was very stupid.
That just makes you even more wrong.I am not talking about cycling but many different sports, football,basketball,american football etc
UAE Tour in February is a training race for these guys. What did Vingegaard do in 2020 - 46th in the Vuelta? 105th in the stage 13 TT? You are not being objective. Please do not resurrect the fisherman excuse.Come on. He came in second at the Itzulia that year. Ahead of Pogacar. "Suddenly" he was able to do drop Pogacar after doing it a couple of months earlier... Which was also very "sudden" seeing as he won ahead of Pogacar a few months earlier on Jebel Jais. Which actually was somewhat sudden.
I dont know how to explain it to you . After follow sports for almost 20 years i know the athlete prime starts from 26 to 30 , cycling is No different than that , that was my point. I just told it wrong the post beforeThat just makes you even more wrong.
I did say it was somewhat sudden, didn't I?UAE Tour in February is a training race for these guys. What did Vingegaard do in 2020 - 46th in the Vuelta?
What Vingegaard has to do with this? This is the thread of Pogacar.Do you know who is also faster than the 90s guys? The rider in your profile picture. And he achieved that this year after spending two weeks in the hospital. He also had a massive improvement between 2020 and 2021...
For you biggest cheater of all time is Pogacar but for some people here is Jonas. Thats allWhat Vingegaard has to do with this? This the thread of Pogacar.
Vingegaard didn't won anything since March, but yeah, let's talk about him, instead of talk about the biggest cheater of all time, after what he did this year. You are trying to divert attention from him, when you talk about Vingegaard.