Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Divergence]

I'd prefer you'd post direct quotes before you tell your opinion, but it's your call.

I guess your employees would not mind listening to what you would prefer.

 

[red_flanders]

Money talks, bull-sheet walks. Trust fund does wonders. In any case, only a select few actually know what's going on at the top.

That's a very simple construct. Willing to buy it if there's any evidence to support it. History suggests money helps, but is certainly not the only path, and a lot of teams have a lot of money.

 

[Extinction]

That's a very simple construct. Willing to buy it if there's any evidence to support it. History suggests money helps, but is certainly not the only path, and a lot of teams have a lot of money.

Who has evidence? Who shot JFK? I don't know. But we all live in the "real" world. It's fun and kind of kinky, when you think about it.

 

[red_flanders]

Who has evidence? Who shot JFK? I don't know. But we all live in the "real" world. It's fun and kind of kinky, when you think about it.

Yep, we have what we know about the past, and that's about it. So I'm left with "I doubt it's that simple" but I'm open to being convinced otherwise.

 

[Extinction]

Yep, we have what we know about the past, and that's about it. So I'm left with "I doubt it's that simple" but I'm open to being convinced otherwise.

Convinced? Look, everbody draws their own conclusions. Whether or not that has any bearing on the nature of things, is an open question. Someone once said stoically, the effects of anger were much worse than that which caused it. Marcus Aurelius?

 

[aphronesis]

Money buys dope? Life isn’t like the 90s? Effects exceed and transform the techniques of their causes? What else?

 

[Ripper]

I hope this entire paragraph is satire. If not, it is pure and utter ignorance. There's really no in-between.

UAE press officer!

 

[Extinction]

Money buys dope? Life isn’t like the 90s? Effects exceed and transform the techniques of their causes? What else?

Just explain what you mean. I'm not even a moralist, but Gianetti's got to go, like Riis, like Bruyneel. The guy simply shouldn't be involved with the sport. Life isn't like the 90s? Nice try. It's far worse.

 

[Cookster15]

I bet they aren't watching the full 5 hour broadcast like us.

You may be right about fans switching off but popularity of cycling goes up and down. Maybe it went down during Merckyx, Indurain and Armstrong eras too?

But your quote I am interested to know who is "us"? How many fans actually sit through an entire day's racing? "Hardcore" fans would not be a large number in the total scheme of viewers and followers who make up the cycling market.

I have been following the sport for 33 years and have never sat through an entire stage - I don't think I ever watched a full replay either -5 to 6 hours? We have a car race in Australia which runs all day. I kind of watched that as a kid. But a bike race? I prefer the last 2 hours at most. Most European races finish at 1:30am here.

 

[Abedfo]

It's a brave man who sits through 5 hours of Carlton Kirby on a transitional Vuelta stage.