I couldn't say if he's on the juice or not, but Pogacar looks pretty bored right now, like he is on a club ride with retirees
I mean, if Visma could get Tadej so bored that he stops riding the Tour, that would be a major win for them.I couldn't say if he's on the juice or not, but Pogacar looks pretty bored right now, like he is on a club ride with retirees
We were just saying that this looks like a local club ride where they’ve been lucky enough to pick up a top class professional out in a training run who decided to ride with them for a few kilometres just for the craic, in the knowledge that he’ll leave them all for dead once he gets bored.I couldn't say if he's on the juice or not, but Pogacar looks pretty bored right now, like he is on a club ride with retirees
Does anyone have access to the article?This is an interesting development: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/07/25/tour-france-bikes-hidden-motors/
Are we about to go mainstream? Will other journalists start investigating? Early days but one pebble can start an avalanche.
Yes I thought so too, didn't want to say as it seemed too conspiratorial but as you've mentioned it.So who's up for a little conspiracy theory regarding David Rozman and Ineos? i.e. Rozman apparently has Slovenian links.
And suddenly Pog is allowing Ineos to win 2 stages.
Makes you think. Or it could just be coincidental. But it's funny nonetheless.
IMO the best bikes were the last generation of rim brakes 2015-19. They were lighter and still very areo, plus way more reliable.Those aero gains for clothes are arguably non existent. Those solid helmets from Bell everyone bought for their kid in the 1990s test better than most aero helmets these days (not talking about TT ones). There was a recent test of about 20 different aero socks and only a few had better aero than some normal worn out casual socks the tester used for a baseline, most of them tested worse.
Puppy paws and supertucking has been banned.
Tour magazine tested the Dogma F10 as more aero than many contemporary aero bikes.
Tires have been the same since the 2010s, GP5000s have been around since then, Veloflex tires from 2010s all test about as good as you can get.
IMO the best bikes were the last generation of rim brakes 2015-19. They were lighter and still very areo, plus way more reliable.
The 5 minutes slower claim is completely farcical, that would mean that if we were to give Armstrong's bike to Thomas/Vinge/pogacar for their 2022 ascent of the alpe, they would suddenly be slower than basically every winning time dating back to the 70's...The guy is part of the industry sure he wants to get another contract next year.
Here you go:Does anyone have access to the article?
I feel he still treats cycling as a game, expecting everyone to just play along, and gets upset when they don't. It's like a child having his toy taken away.Just watched the Pogacar interview he’s frustrated that UAE (really just him) did all the work today while Jonas sat back. But come on the ego is unreal. Jonas has attacked him repeatedly this Tour and still couldn’t drop him. Isn’t that proof you’re the strongest? You can’t dominate and then complain others won’t help you. Pogacar wants it both ways and honestly, it feels like there’s nothing he wouldn’t do to win… even if that means firing up a motor.
Pogacar is just a little brat at heart.I feel he still treats cycling as a game, expecting everyone to just play along, and gets upset when they don't. It's like a child having his toy taken away.
No, I think he's quite pleasant overall. Just needs to learn a few lessons, which is difficult when you have a massive fanbase treating you like a god, and a team that's unlikely to give you much pushback, either.Pogacar is just a little brat at heart.
Exactly. "Oh Jonas, please pull me so I can outspirnt you at the end and gain another 7 seconds". Lmao at this absolute dork.Just watched the Pogacar interview he’s frustrated that UAE (really just him) did all the work today while Jonas sat back. But come on the ego is unreal. Jonas has attacked him repeatedly this Tour and still couldn’t drop him. Isn’t that proof you’re the strongest? You can’t dominate and then complain others won’t help you. Pogacar wants it both ways and honestly, it feels like there’s nothing he wouldn’t do to win… even if that means firing up a motor.
Does anyone have access to the article?
One of the great fallacies is that pro riders know what they are talking about when it comes to technology. Just listen to some of Dowsett's interviews/podcasts.The guy is a 2020 TdF stage winner. Im pretty sure he knows what he is talking about.
This was what I always was saying in this forum (that Pogacar's bike is regularly checked). Now with this article, you can also hear it from the horses mouth too. They found no motor in Tadej's bike.Here you go:
Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?
Kevin Sieff
MUR-DE-BRETAGNE, France — After the world’s best cyclists charged up the final climb in Stage 7 of the Tour de France, passing a roaring crowd at the finish line, a group of officials in black polo shirts darted toward their bikes.
The officials put red bracelets on the carbon frames. Their job was to conduct a little-known check in one of the world’s most scandal-stained sports: The bikes were being inspected for tiny motors.
Eight bikes were wheeled to a black tent a few feet from the podium, the handlebar tape still wet with riders’ sweat. One belonged to the winner of the stage, Tadej Pogacar. The other bikes belonged to riders who cycling officials had targeted based on questionable performances or tips.
Yeah I had a Specialized Venge disc brake but sold it and went back to rim brakes. Lighter, faster and more reliable. Modern bikes are way to overcomplicated.yep, i recently brought in my 2015 Cannondale Supersix for a tune up and the mechanic couldn't believe how light it was, with just regular old Mavic Ksyrium wheels on it too. he said the disc brake bikes he usually works on now are so much heavier.
A lot of us on here don't believe that motors are being used. I personally think Gianetti has found a new form of EPO, that's less detectable than CERA, his other find.This was what I always was saying in this forum (that Pogacar's bike is regularly checked). Now with this article, you can also hear it from the horses mouth too. They found no motor in Tadej's bike.
There has been a lot of motor-doping talk on here, daily.A lot of us on here don't believe that motors are being used. I personally think Gianetti has found a new form of EPO, that's less detectable than CERA, his other find.
Yeah, Wellens was almost as fast as noted mountain goats Bruno Armirail, Victor Campenaerts, and Tobias Foss. That's a red flag if ever I saw one.
What entertainment? The same guy winning all the time, nearly effortless isn't exactily entertaining for me.Don't forget the WC too, oh no, what do we do?wether one believes he dopes or not, just enjoy the entertainment.
I have my doubts. I feel he showed his true colours in the 2022 Tour of Flanders when he threw a hissy fit and has basically been managing media expectations after that. Perhaps I'm being harsh though and judging him in a weak moment; nevertheless I don't think he's exactly the chilled out angelic "just for fun" person he's made out to be.No, I think he's quite pleasant overall. Just needs to learn a few lessons, which is difficult when you have a massive fanbase treating you like a god, and a team that's unlikely to give you much pushback, either.