Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Krzysztof_O]

That would be awesome. I genuinely hope he wins all monuments, TdF, Vuelta, Romandy and WC RR. I look forward to 'journalists' explaining away those results.

There's Van der Poel, whose sole mission is to prevent "the end of cycling"

 

[KoopaCycling]

They will just sing his praises, and say we gotta enjoy this lifetime athlete while we can...

 

[SorelyBoy]

Marginal gains? Pogacar and UAE don't appear to 'do' marginal gains, at least not in the sense we actually understand them, or came to understand them from the Brailsford Team Sky era. UAE and Pogacar are doing something else, something that has turned top level professional cycling from a competitive sport into a series of mere processions. However his watts are measured, whatever the physics, Pogacar is currently able to destroy his world class opponents, entire pelotons in fact, in almost every type of race. Usually by very large margins, or as large as he wishes to make them. Not only that, but he's apparently able to do this without exhibiting any of the traditional signs of stress or effort that normally accompanies the sport of cycling at the highest level. Similarly, Pogacar does not appear to suffer from putting himself into oxygen debt after accelerating away from opponents, even on brutal climbs. He doesn't have a red zone. How likely is it that another human being would be so superior and in such a comprehensive fashion to everyone else? Not just in particular race types, which would be difficult enough given the competition, but across all race types, and entire length of the cycling season, bar the odd break in the schedule? Not only that, but how likely is it that such a rider exhibits next to no significant dips in form, or periods of illness, as would be normally expected given the intensity of the workload and its impact on the human body? And is it just a coincidence that such an unlikely cyclist just happens to be in a team managed by a certain Gianetti and Matxin? I mean, almost anything is possible in this crazy world, but come on, this is ludicrous.

 

[AlpRaid]

lol at all who took my "marginal gains" as a serious comment. c'mon everyone, I even followed it with an eyeroll emoji.

nah, nah, gianetti's ghouls are doing much more than marginal gains.

 

[BubbaChuck]

Another 10%, ups. always remember,straight out of monaco.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Asked about Seixas, Domen Novak just revealed the following. I wonder how the 'climbing times exploded in 2020 because of nUtrItIoN' crowd will try to explain this...

Considering his age, he is even slightly better than Tadej was. But you need to know something else. [...] I can say that he won his first Tour eating pizza, drinking beer and playing his Playstation.

Link

 

[KoopaCycling]

Yes a lieutenant of Pogacar

 

[AlpRaid]

Asked about Seixas, Domen Novak just revealed the following. I wonder how the 'climbing times exploded in 2020 because of nUtrItIoN' crowd will try to explain this...

Link

I was coming here to post that quote. lol. They r out in force trying to explain the jump he made between 23 and 24.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Ok, cool and all, but will he be able to do it again when he's almost 42?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701972908195631356

View: https://x.com/hornerakg/status/1701972908195631356

 

[Gwbert]

Marginal gains? Pogacar and UAE don't appear to 'do' marginal gains, at least not in the sense we actually understand them, or came to understand them from the Brailsford Team Sky era. UAE and Pogacar are doing something else, something that has turned top level professional cycling from a competitive sport into a series of mere processions. However his watts are measured, whatever the physics, Pogacar is currently able to destroy his world class opponents, entire pelotons in fact, in almost every type of race. Usually by very large margins, or as large as he wishes to make them. Not only that, but he's apparently able to do this without exhibiting any of the traditional signs of stress or effort that normally accompanies the sport of cycling at the highest level. Similarly, Pogacar does not appear to suffer from putting himself into oxygen debt after accelerating away from opponents, even on brutal climbs. He doesn't have a red zone. How likely is it that another human being would be so superior and in such a comprehensive fashion to everyone else? Not just in particular race types, which would be difficult enough given the competition, but across all race types, and entire length of the cycling season, bar the odd break in the schedule? Not only that, but how likely is it that such a rider exhibits next to no significant dips in form, or periods of illness, as would be normally expected given the intensity of the workload and its impact on the human body? And is it just a coincidence that such an unlikely cyclist just happens to be in a team managed by a certain Gianetti and Matxin? I mean, almost anything is possible in this crazy world, but come on, this is ludicrous.

Magical gains

 

[KoopaCycling]

I expect Del Toro to drop Remco at TdF.

I too expect an UAE special this year. UCI seems to have given them the green light. So Pogacar & Del Toro will go about their races without restrain.

 

[Ulle97]

Do you feel that Pogacar gets an easy time from the press??

Has he ever had a journalist like Kimmage face up to him with a direct question like 'Your climbing times are lightyears ahead of men who were convicted dopers, do you see how people might be suspicious?'

Like him or not, Armstrong had to face very direct and difficult questions in press conferences. As well as in the French media.

It appears Pogacar is immune to this scrutiny. Do the media see his angelic-like and innocent face and just give him a pass? Is he not allowed to be questioned??

 

[KoopaCycling]

He definitely has been having it easy cause they all like him

 

[kingjr]

Do you feel that Pogacar gets an easy time from the press??

Has he ever had a journalist like Kimmage face up to him with a direct question like 'Your climbing times are lightyears ahead of men who were convicted dopers, do you see how people might be suspicious?'

Like him or not, Armstrong had to face very direct and difficult questions in press conferences. As well as in the French media.

It appears Pogacar is immune to this scrutiny. Do the media see his angelic-like and innocent face and just give him a pass? Is he not allowed to be questioned??

He tested positive during his the very first Tour he won, that may have something to do with it. Just a thought.

 

[Red Rick]

He tested positive during his the very first Tour he won, that may have something to do with it. Just a thought.

And when did that come out?

I'm gonna assert bluntly that it didn't cause 10% of the scrutiny Armstrong had.

 

[kingjr]

And when did that come out?

I'm gonna assert bluntly that it didn't cause 10% of the scrutiny Armstrong had.

21 July 1999, thereabouts.

 

[aphronesis]

Do you feel that Pogacar gets an easy time from the press??

Has he ever had a journalist like Kimmage face up to him with a direct question like 'Your climbing times are lightyears ahead of men who were convicted dopers, do you see how people might be suspicious?'

Like him or not, Armstrong had to face very direct and difficult questions in press conferences. As well as in the French media.

It appears Pogacar is immune to this scrutiny. Do the media see his angelic-like and innocent face and just give him a pass? Is he not allowed to be questioned??

I’ve posted elsewhere that the sport (its infrastructure) media and values aren’t really what they were then. No more than compared to earlier decades.

 

[kingjr]

I wonder what French media and press conferences would have been like, regarding Pogacar, if the sport had faced one of the biggest doping scandals in its history in 2019, involving the most popular French rider of the time.

 

[aphronesis]

I wonder what French media and press conferences would have been like, regarding Pogacar, if the sport had faced one of the biggest doping scandals in its history in 2019, involving the most popular French rider of the time.

Non committal shrug?

 

[kingjr]

Non committal shrug?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[aphronesis]

Comme ca.