Kwibus said:Originally Posted by BYOP88
I'm also always afraid Gesink will hurt himself...
I saw the Tour de Suisse on TV and was amazed at how skinny Gesink is, he looks almost like that famous picture of the Chicken.
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Kwibus said:Originally Posted by BYOP88
I'm also always afraid Gesink will hurt himself...
kurtinsc said:Is being in the front all that's really necessary?
Or will a fast pace over cobbles cause a light GC rider with no experience on the surface to possibly struggle or drop off even if they are near the front?
If Quickstep decides to put the hammer down right at the beginning of the 4th cobbled section... will a 130 pound climber (in general) be able to stay near the front by the end of 20 km with 10km of cobbles? Is positioning really the primary factor?
BeachBum said:I saw the Tour de Suisse on TV and was amazed at how skinny Gesink is, he looks almost like that famous picture of the Chicken.
BYOP88 said:Why do some(or most) people think Astana will be so passive on this stage?
Sure they may not have all 9 riders where it matters at the right time(but will any team have all 9 at the front when it matters) but I'm guessing they'll do their best to have Contador at the front and yes Saxo may have the better riders to guide the Schleck's over the cobbles but they can't actually do the riding for them. The GC contender I'm most worried about is Menchov I mean it's not like he's known for great bike handling skills.
scribe said:Passive is not in the equation. Struggling to keep up is. Many see this as the only opportunity for their GC hopes to take a bite out of Contador. Without the TTT, which effectively hands this tour to Contador, and barring crash and illness, there will be no other opportunity for the hopefuls.
Scott SoCal said:I had a chance to ride 50kms of P-R this year the Friday before the race. Couple of things;
If they race au bloc early AND if the North wind is blowing there will be significant time gaps for some of the GC guys. They can't all be at the front and if one GC guy knows he has gapped another they will drop the hammer.
The stones are for real and they ain't for 140lb guys that can fly going uphill.
TeamSkyFans said:twitter today:
@mcewenrobbie recon'd TdF st3 cobbled final w/ Stijn Vdb, going to be CARNAGE! The TdF will explode on this stage, will eliminate some GC & green riders
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jens_attacks said:that's what i want,a fuccing carnage,but no one should get hurt just left behind in mud and rain,that kind of carnage...like that great day in montalcino.
damn,can you imagine if it will rain,how much will struggle menchov and basso on the cobbles?it'll be insane.
Libertine Seguros said:Yea, that's right, just like Montalcino, nobody getting hurt, just Sastre crashing and herniating a disc in his back
peloton said:+1
Boonen’s talents and past achievements suggest that the stage will play directly to his strengths but, to his credit, he is able to remain objective and to see the problems that this could cause.
"What is now on the table will be a nightmare for the climbers and general classification riders,” he said. “I have my doubts. This type of cycling has no place in the Tour. It is not important for a Tour winner that he can go fast on the cobblestones. This is regarded by me as trying to cause a sensation. But it’s sensation with a bad taste. "
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/4...cobblestones-appearing-in-Tour-de-France.aspx
It sounds good to me. Imagine a team vigorously trying to defend a 10+ minute advantage of a bigger rider going into the mountains. Lay down a great first week, limit the damage in the mountains, and defend in the TTs.kurtinsc said:Just to play opposite of Boonen... it' snot not important for a tour winner to go fast on the cobblestones because the Tour hasn't included many cobblestone stages.
What makes a GC champion is being able to complete the stages of the tour faster then anyone else. If there were 5 cobbled stages... then riding the pave would be part of what makes a good Tour rider.
I'd actually like to see a tour that really did mix it up. 2-3 cobbled stages. A couple of fairly flat stages with a big climb at the end. A few constant up and down stages over big climbs. A long flat ITT, a mountain ITT (say up Alpe d'huez) and a hilly ITT with technical descents. A couple of flat/likely windy stages along the coast. A couple of hilly-classic type stages. A couple of easy sprint stages. A couple of mostly flat stages with a few significant bumps at the end. And even a TTT. Heck, even a dirt stage like we had at the Giro.
kurtinsc said:Just to play opposite of Boonen... it' snot not important for a tour winner to go fast on the cobblestones because the Tour hasn't included many cobblestone stages.
What makes a GC champion is being able to complete the stages of the tour faster then anyone else. If there were 5 cobbled stages... then riding the pave would be part of what makes a good Tour rider.
I'd actually like to see a tour that really did mix it up. 2-3 cobbled stages. A couple of fairly flat stages with a big climb at the end. A few constant up and down stages over big climbs. A long flat ITT, a mountain ITT (say up Alpe d'huez) and a hilly ITT with technical descents. A couple of flat/likely windy stages along the coast. A couple of hilly-classic type stages. A couple of easy sprint stages. A couple of mostly flat stages with a few significant bumps at the end. And even a TTT. Heck, even a dirt stage like we had at the Giro.
ferryman said:That would be a fab mix. How about a TTT up the Alpe
Sky have Flecha! BMC have Hincapie, Burghardt and Ballan who IS now riding the tour.sublimit said:I think you can discount BMC. SKY can be added to the list they have solid riders experienced on this terrain - but obviously need to stay upright.
Radioshack will sit on near the front and wait till later and conserve energy i reckon.
Kwibus said:I'm 100% sure Menchov wil lose time. He's the kind of rider who is always at the back of the peloton. I'm also always afraid Gesink will hurt himself so I hope he decides to lose time in this stage just to stay healthy for the mountains
auscyclefan94 said:Sky have Flecha! BMC have Hincapie, Burghardt and Ballan who IS now riding the tour.
Merckx11 said:"but Evans is still a question mark on how well he can handle the surface. "
Really? Evans is an awesome mountain biker. he should excel on the cobbles.
Merckx11 said:"but Evans is still a question mark on how well he can handle the surface. "
Really? Evans is an awesome mountain biker. he should excel on the cobbles.