Team Ineos Discussion thread

[oldcrank]

Now Nicolas Portal can pull out his Michelin spiral bound road atlas and start plotting his schedule to complete his famously thorough and detailed stage re-cons that will help Tim Kerrison formulate Froomey's training plan.

 

[KZD]

I am almost sure that unless some unexpected thing happens, Bernal and Froome will be line-up in the Tour as Ineos leaders with Carapaz as a super domestique coming from the Giro and someone in which Bernal trusts like Sivakov, Sosa and Hart will be there too.

 

[MatParker117]

My guess is that lining up in Nice will be:

Froome, Bernal, Thomas, Carapaz, Kwaitkowski, Castro, Moscon, Rowe

 

[F_Cance]

All 4? Never.

 

[Savant12]

My guess is that lining up in Nice will be:

Froome, Bernal, Thomas, Carapaz, Kwaitkowski, Castro, Moscon, Rowe

Kwiat will need to show that he has the form to make the Tour team next year. Moscon was underwhelming this year, too but his form picked up at the World's.

 

[rick james]

Kwiat will need to show that he has the form to make the Tour team next year. Moscon was underwhelming this year, too but his form picked up at the World's.

Both are claiming they over trained

 

[rick james]

All 4? Never.

Can’t see it myself....

 

[rick james]

Froome
Bernal
Castro
Rowe
Kwiato
Moscon
Van baarle

One final spot for a climber but it won’t be Thomas or carapaz

 

[b.broadhurst]

Giro: Thomas Carapaz Amador Sosa Sivakov Geoghegan Hart Moscon Ganna

Tour: Froome Bernal Dennis Kwiatkowski Van Baarle Castroviejo Rowe + 1 of Thomas/Carapaz

 

[Parker]

Giro: Thomas Carapaz Amador Sosa Sivakov Geoghegan Hart Moscon Ganna

Tour: Froome Bernal Dennis Kwiatkowski Van Baarle Castroviejo Rowe + 1 of Thomas/Carapaz

A bit short on the climbers for the Tour team on that parcours. I'd expect Sivakov to be there for the experience and Amador. Even if Dennis signs I can't see him being selected with the Olympic TT as his main goal.

Tour: Froome, Bernal, Amador, Sivakov, Thomas, Castroviejo, two of Kwiatkowski, Van Baarle & Rowe. One of these will be ill/injured though.

 

[Red Rick]

I have a hard time seeing Thomas go to the Giro.

 

[gregrowlerson]

I think that the Giro (as co-leader) with Carapaz would be a good opportunity for Thomas, as we are anticipating more ITT kms. But if he prefers to go to the Tour than Ineos will allow him to as a third protected rider. I think that Sivakov should also be protected and get to ride at the Giro and Vuelta; he could top 5 in one next season.

 

[rick james]

next years Tour route is far too tough to go in to it with 3 protected riders

 

[Nirvana]

Both are claiming they over trained

According to the Gazzetta Moscon gained 8 kilos in liquids during the Tour and for this reason couldn't climb, theoretically that also explains why he was suddenly good at the Worlds were there was only rolling terrain but not in the Italian races.

Regarding Kwiatkowski IMHO more than over training he over raced last year going to Poland just after the Tour and then wanting to go even to the Vuelta to try the GC exploding after a week but continuing the race instead of taking a needed rest.

 

[glassmoon]

next years Tour route is far too tough to go in to it with 3 protected riders

Movistar: "Hold my cerverza"
yeah, not anymore I guess... would be hilarious though

 

[Red Rick]

next years Tour route is far too tough to go in to it with 3 protected riders

I think there's enough stages to find out who's the best bet before them helping each other out becomes super crucial.

If Froome is Froome again Thomas can go back to domestique duty pretty quickly.

 

[tobydawq]

Thomas must be the Tour winner in history who has the least respect from fans. Sad to see.

 

[dastott]

Thomas most be the Tour winner in history who has the least respect from fans. Sad to see.

Definitely. With a better off season, I hope Thomas has a tremendous 2020. Has finished 1st and 2nd in the last 2 Tours, and could have possibly doubled up this year under slightly different circumstances.

 

[Red Rick]

Thomas must be the Tour winner in history who has the least respect from fans. Sad to see.

You missed the glory days of Abandony Schleck

 

[tobydawq]

You missed the glory days of Abandony Schleck

Well, no I didn't, and he didn't really win.

 

[Red Rick]

Well, no I didn't, and he didn't really win.

Whatever. Its complete recency bias

 

[glassmoon]

Thomas must be the Tour winner in history who has the least respect from fans. Sad to see.

What about that Spanish guy... ehm... what's his name...

 

[Red Rick]

What about that Spanish guy... ehm... what's his name...

Sastre.

Or Pereiro

Or just look at the amount of *** wiggins got during the 2013 Giro

 

[glassmoon]

Sastre.

Or Pereiro

Or just look at the amount of *** wiggins got during the 2013 Giro

lol, I honestly completely forgot about Sastre...

 

[rick james]

I think there's enough stages to find out who's the best bet before them helping each other out becomes super crucial.

If Froome is Froome again Thomas can go back to domestique duty pretty quickly.

The way Froome hobbled about that stage the other day I truly believe he won’t be a factor in next years tour