Team Ineos Discussion thread

[Oliwright]

Re: Re:

Where do Sky go from this Giro? Is the Sky Train era over? What's the current pecking order of GC riders in the team?

They go to the TDF with the A-Team, pretty sure we'll see the train back in full force again.

Froome, Bernal, Thomas, Kwiatko, Moscon, Castro, Rowe + I'm guessing Kiry will double up. If not Kiry then some lowlander like Baarle or Stannard.

These 6 seem almost guaranteed: Froome, Bernal, Thomas, Kwiatkowski, Moscon, Castroviejo
There you have: 1 GC, 1 Pure Climber, 3 All-Rounders & 1 Rider for the Flat.

Last year Sky took 1 GC (Froome), 3 Pure Climbers (Nieve, Landa, Henao), 2 All-Rounders (G & Kwiat) & 2 guys for the flat (Knees & Rowe).

I think Sky will go for 1 Guy for the flat terrain & 1 more climber.
Flat terrain: Rowe, Stannard, Kiri , Wisniowski or Dylan Van Baarle. My pick would be Rowe, if he's back to his best.
Climber: De La Crux, Poels, Sergio Henao & Rosa. A lot will depend on how Rosa does in the dauphine. But I expect Poels to go.

Froome, Bernal, Thomas, Kwiatko, Moscon, Castro, Rowe & Poels.
So you'd get 1 GC, 2 Pure Climbers, 3 All-Rounders & 2 guys for the flat.

Either way, Sky's team should be pretty ridiculous!

 

[vedrafjord]

Re: Re:

Where do Sky go from this Giro? Is the Sky Train era over? What's the current pecking order of GC riders in the team?

They go to the TDF with the A-Team, pretty sure we'll see the train back in full force again.

Froome, Bernal, Thomas, Kwiatko, Moscon, Castro, Rowe + I'm guessing Kiry will double up. If not Kiry then some lowlander like Baarle or Stannard.

My question was more what's their long term succession plan post-Froome? It's possible Froome doesn't ride this year's Tour and it's also possible that his days of dominating the GC are behind him. They have Henao, Poels, Bernal, Kwiatowski, Moscon, Thomas, etc. If you had to construct a GT-winning team from the current line-up minus Froome, what would it look like and who would the leader be? Should they buy a new leader from elsewhere? Etc etc.

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

Where do Sky go from this Giro? Is the Sky Train era over? What's the current pecking order of GC riders in the team?

They go to the TDF with the A-Team, pretty sure we'll see the train back in full force again.

Froome, Bernal, Thomas, Kwiatko, Moscon, Castro, Rowe + I'm guessing Kiry will double up. If not Kiry then some lowlander like Baarle or Stannard.

My question was more what's their long term succession plan post-Froome? It's possible Froome doesn't ride this year's Tour and it's also possible that his days of dominating the GC are behind him. They have Henao, Poels, Bernal, Kwiatowski, Moscon, Thomas, etc. If you had to construct a GT-winning team from the current line-up minus Froome, what would it look like and who would the leader be? Should they buy a new leader from elsewhere? Etc etc.

If I was in charge: for this year I'd take a strong team and ride for Thomas for the Tour and probably Poels and Henao for the Vuelta. However, none of those three are likely to win a GT so I'd be letting people go for stage wins. With a bit more panache, Sky could rack up stage wins in a GT like QS often do. I'd throw Bernal at the Tour, tell him to ride as well as he can but no pressure. He'd be the long term leader if you don't have to consider sponsors. But since you probably do, I'd bring at least one Yates in when their contracts are next up.

 

[Red Rick]

Can the time limit be a problem for teh grupetto cause they start the climb 15 minutes down on the stage winner already?

 

[therealthing]

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So, Intxausti started in the Tour of Norway but DNF stage 1. Wonder if he ever gets up to proper racing again

Such a shame

Seems his is a lost cause now. Though he is on the startlist for the Hammer Series.

 

[MatParker117]

That's how you do it.

 

[vedrafjord]

Re: Re:

Where do Sky go from this Giro? Is the Sky Train era over? What's the current pecking order of GC riders in the team?

They go to the TDF with the A-Team, pretty sure we'll see the train back in full force again.

Froome, Bernal, Thomas, Kwiatko, Moscon, Castro, Rowe + I'm guessing Kiry will double up. If not Kiry then some lowlander like Baarle or Stannard.

My question was more what's their long term succession plan post-Froome? It's possible Froome doesn't ride this year's Tour and it's also possible that his days of dominating the GC are behind him. They have Henao, Poels, Bernal, Kwiatowski, Moscon, Thomas, etc. If you had to construct a GT-winning team from the current line-up minus Froome, what would it look like and who would the leader be? Should they buy a new leader from elsewhere? Etc etc.

(GOB voice) "I've made a huge mistake..."

 

[Taxus4a]

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So, Intxausti started in the Tour of Norway but DNF stage 1. Wonder if he ever gets up to proper racing again

He will do he is really good, but it takes time, of curse.

 

[MuskyOurSaviour]

Froome
Bernal
Thomas
Poels
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Castroviejo
Rowe

I know Movistar looks scary, but I think Sky can match them. Gonna be amazing Tour I feel.

Anyone expectingthe 3rd week MTFs to be consisting group of 7 riders 3 Sky vs 3 Movistar vs Nibs :lol:
Bernal is gonna drop Froomey at some point, it's so inevitable.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re:

Froome
Bernal
Thomas
Poels
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Castroviejo
Rowe

I know Movistar looks scary, but I think Sky can match them. Gonna be amazing Tour I feel.

Anyone expectingthe 3rd week MTFs to be consisting group of 7 riders 3 Sky vs 3 Movistar vs Nibs :lol:

It would be awesome but Movistar will be still deliberating, the f..k, who is the leader, what the f..ck.........

 

[MuskyOurSaviour]

Re: Re:

Froome
Bernal
Thomas
Poels
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Castroviejo
Rowe

I know Movistar looks scary, but I think Sky can match them. Gonna be amazing Tour I feel.

Anyone expectingthe 3rd week MTFs to be consisting group of 7 riders 3 Sky vs 3 Movistar vs Nibs :lol:

It would be awesome but Movistar will be still deliberating, the f..k, who is the leader, what the f..ck.........

Considering the madness of the Tour and the first week I think it's super likely Movistar will be down to 2 or even 1 leader by 3rd week. And Sky most likely as well.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re: Re:

Froome
Bernal
Thomas
Poels
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Castroviejo
Rowe

I know Movistar looks scary, but I think Sky can match them. Gonna be amazing Tour I feel.

Anyone expectingthe 3rd week MTFs to be consisting group of 7 riders 3 Sky vs 3 Movistar vs Nibs :lol:

It would be awesome but Movistar will be still deliberating, the f..k, who is the leader, what the f..ck.........

Considering the madness of the Tour and the first week I think it's super likely Movistar will be down to 2 or even 1 leader by 3rd week. And Sky most likely as well.

Well, maybe.. :razz: If Bernal is at squad.

 

[rick james]

Froome
Thomas
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Rowe
Castroviejo
Seb Henao
Bernal

 

[rick james]

https://www.teamsky.com/article/russ-ellis-giro-d-italia-stage-19-gallery

 

[liamito]

Re:

Froome
Thomas
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Rowe
Castroviejo
Seb Henao
Bernal

Seb :lol:

 

[Nirvana]

Poels was scheduled to ride both Giro and Tour.

 

[rick james]

Re: Re:

Froome
Thomas
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Rowe
Castroviejo
Seb Henao
Bernal

Seb :lol:

He has to come of age at one point

 

[wouterkaas]

He did perform great on the Tour of California. Not sure if he's ready to be in the TDF squad, but he's at least well underway.

 

[deValtos]

Re: Team Sky Discussion thread

As good as Seb is there's too much other talent at Sky to make the TDF team this year.

I expect he'll ride the Vuelta and we can see if he develops into a rider who they would take to the TDF next year.

 

[Arked]

Re:

Froome
Thomas
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Rowe
Castroviejo
Seb Henao
Bernal

Rowe -> Van Baarle
Seb Henao -> Poels

 

[wouterkaas]

Re: Re:

Froome
Thomas
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Rowe
Castroviejo
Seb Henao
Bernal

Rowe -> Van Baarle
Seb Henao -> Poels

Would be the first time in years they are not bringing Rowe to the tour, but that could then also be a consequence of the reduced team sizes.

 

[Vasilis]

Re: Re:

Froome
Thomas
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Rowe
Castroviejo
Seb Henao
Bernal

Rowe -> Van Baarle
Seb Henao -> Poels

Would be the first time in years they are not bringing Rowe to the tour, but that could then also be a consequence of the reduced team sizes.

I think Rowe is more likely, he already is a trusted lieutenant and road captain, I don't think Van Baarle has done anything to warrant a spot over Rowe.

 

[Koronin]

Re: Re:

Froome
Bernal
Thomas
Poels
Moscon
Kwiatkowski
Castroviejo
Rowe

I know Movistar looks scary, but I think Sky can match them. Gonna be amazing Tour I feel.

Anyone expectingthe 3rd week MTFs to be consisting group of 7 riders 3 Sky vs 3 Movistar vs Nibs :lol:

It would be awesome but Movistar will be still deliberating, the f..k, who is the leader, what the f..ck.........

Or they will have imploded by the 3rd week. Bahrain will be actually unified behind Nibali and should also have a strong team. Nibali will have the Izagirre brothers with him. With Movistar's 3 leaders it's likely that at least Landa and Quintana could end up attack each other. In that case the rest should just sit back and watch.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Officially confirmed Dauphine squad: Castroviejo, Hart, Thomas, Kwiatkowski, Moscon, Rowe, Van Baarle.
Servais Knaven: "Geraint and Kwiato are our guys for GC and we have to see where they are at the moment as they have just come back from altitude camp, so we will see how things go. They will be our main guys.”
Let's hope Bernal will start in Suisse and kick some Movistar's asses.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Team Sky has just presented their kits design for TdF 2018. Well IMHO orca should be replaced by.. shark.

"Team Sky has joined the Sky Ocean Rescue journey by unveiling a new kit design for the upcoming Tour de France – and pledging to remove all single-use plastic (SUP) packaging from its business operations by 2020.
The new kit design will be worn by Team Sky at the Tour de France (July 7th-29th). It has been designed to help the team stand out in the peloton, with orcas featuring on the back of the jersey."

https://res.cloudinary.com/team-sky/c_crop,w_2840,h_3084,x_397,y_439/c_fill,w_1600/q_auto:good,f_auto,fl_lossy/CF_SOR_FRONT_jbb4jm.jpg
https://res.cloudinary.com/team-sky/c_crop,w_3280,h_4440,x_0,y_0/c_fill,w_1600/q_auto:good,f_auto,fl_lossy/CF_SOR_BACK_kwttgk.jpg