Team Ineos Discussion thread

[Nirvana]

According to Tosatto Carapaz and Tao will still be their gc riders for the Giro.
Source: https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article...atto-intervista-bernal-ganna-carapaz.-viviani
I guess that maybe Porte will ride the Tour instead, but I don't expect too many big changes.

That's according to the author, Tosatto quote is a lot different:

Di riunioni per discutere come cambiare le punte ai grandi Giri a tappe dopo quanto è accaduto a Egan non ne abbiamo ancora fatte.

 

[pastronef]

You tellin' me a teammate helped someone win a race? Say it ain't so

one of the best SkIneos wins. seeing Dennis help Tao to get pink was priceless.

 

[Netserk]

one of the best SkIneos wins. seeing Dennis help Tao to get pink was priceless.

It was their second best (and second most priceless) Giro win, but agreed.

 

[tobydawq]

Apparently, they will send Adam Yates and Martínez to the north of France to ride some cobbles on Thursday.

That should give an indication of who they will be backing at the Tour.

 

[Escarabajo]

I think they were clear with Adam Yates but not with Martinez. I assume that they were a bit surprised by his performances. Strange but at least they are giving themselves a double choice. Because going to the Tour with Adam in mind only was crazy. Where is Thomas in all this anyway?

 

[tobydawq]

I think they were clear with Adam Yates but not with Martinez. I assume that they were a bit surprised by his performances. Strange but at least they are giving themselves a double choice. Because going to the Tour with Adam in mind only was crazy. Where is Thomas in all this anyway?

Good question. But he does have a lot of experience doing cobbles so in that perspective, it makes sense not to have him ride there. But yeah, I think his days as a GT contender are likely over.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Martinez has the far better upside. We know what Adam Yates can do at his peak - struggle, hold on for dear life for a top 5 in Tour de France. No real visibility. Nothing wrong with that, but thats not really good enough for Ineos

 

[Netserk]

Good question. But he does have a lot of experience doing cobbles so in that perspective, it makes sense not to have him ride there. But yeah, I think his days as a GT contender are likely over.

I thought you wouldn’t lose hope after his stage race results last year.

 

[Escarabajo]

As some news media outlets have already stated, here is the confirmation from his mouth that he is a domestique:

https://www.revistamundociclistico.com/2022/daniel-martinez-confirma-rol-de-gregario-para-el-tour-de-francia-y-desmiente-rumores-del-bora-hansgrohe/

BTW, "Dani, can go train in the cobbles please" "you know, just in case". The fact that a domestique has already been selected this early makes you wonder

 

[Ancalagon]

Watching Tao today I was wondering :
Is he the worst GT winner of the last 20 years ?
Granted his career is not over yet, but have we seen another GT winner that was as weak as he is ? Even Oscar Pereiro is more impressive to me.

 

[Breh]

They should delete that Giro.

 

[gunara]

Watching Tao today I was wondering :
Is he the worst GT winner of the last 20 years ?
Granted his career is not over yet, but have we seen another GT winner that was as weak as he is ? Even Oscar Pereiro is more impressive to me.

Make me wonder was there ever any grand tour like it? Not particularly the outcome, but everything feels freakish the whole race, and honestly, doesn't feel serious enough to be taken seriously.
Although it was also one of the key races where, for me, the 'mass changing of the guard' thing felt sealed, and I was realizing not only the likes of the two Slovenes and the crossers were on board, but some unreliable kids too.

 

[Phillip O'Garner]

Nice effort by Martinez today. I wonder whether he will be seen as a joint lead at the TDF.

 

[Ancalagon]

Nice effort by Martinez today. I wonder whether he will be seen as a joint lead at the TDF.

I am a big believer in him, I think he has a better chance of finishing on the podium at the tour than A. Yates.
He is extremely strong, relatively young and had impressive results in the past while working for others.

I see him as a potential GT winner.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I am a big believer in him, I think he has a better chance of finishing on the podium at the tour than A. Yates.
He is extremely strong, relatively young and had impressive results in the past while working for others.

I see him as a potential GT winner.

Same. Ineos doesnt have that much going for them and they are sending a lot of firepower to the Giro, so I guess it will between Yates, Martinez and Thomas this Tour. Thomas has seen better days but can potentially still go well with the right prep and no crashes and so on, but I really do think Martinez is their best bet as well.
And how about Sivakov?

 

[Eeslliw]

I see him as a potential GT winner.

Not with that descending skills. He is just so bad. I mean he loses positions on easy-slow paced downhills by the peloton. The moment he is in leaders jersey and a real threat they will just attack him on downhills and tire him out.

Does anyone know why is he so bad? Did he had some crash at younger age or what?

 

[Mayomaniac]

Not with that descending skills. He is just so bad. I mean he loses positions on easy-slow paced downhills by the peloton. The moment he is in leaders jersey and a real threat they will just attack him on downhills and tire him out.

Does anyone know why is he so bad? Did he had some crash at younger age or what?

I can't remember any really bad crashes, but to me it looks like it's mainly fear at higher speeds, he isn't making clear cut technical mistakes.

 

[AlfaLum]

I think GT declared last week that at the moment A. Yates and DFM have been declared joint leaders for Ineos at the Tour de France. I think that makes sense, and it also makes me quite happy because both of them are entertaining attacking riders. Hopefully they will be able to mount a podium challenge.

 

[Phillip O'Garner]

Same. Ineos doesnt have that much going for them and they are sending a lot of firepower to the Giro, so I guess it will between Yates, Martinez and Thomas this Tour. Thomas has seen better days but can potentially still go well with the right prep and no crashes and so on, but I really do think Martinez is their best bet as well.
And how about Sivakov?

Sivakov hasn't shown very much for a while to suggest he can challenge in a GT.

 

[Phillip O'Garner]

Rodriquez looks a talent. I think he is due to ride the Vuelta. Impressive again from DFM.

 

[AlfaLum]

What happened to Adam Yates? Looked quite good for the first five stages but then didn’t even finish today stage it seems?

 

[Bonimenier]

Isn't this the first time in a long time Ineos won a GC where Pog or Rog started?

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Isn't this the first time in a long time Ineos won a GC where Pog or Rog started?

Probably first since 2018 Tour.

 

[HelloDolly]

Surely Gerraint is a co leader at the tour ...that is the race he is aiming for

Him and Martinez I think are the best bets, exp Martinez
Adam Yates I cant see him trouble the podium esp with his TT ,etc

 

[Netserk]

What happened to Adam Yates? Looked quite good for the first five stages but then didn’t even finish today stage it seems?

With all the illness in the peloton, it wouldn't surprise me if he was somewhat affected as well. It's been a weird spring so far.