Team Ineos Discussion thread

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It's sort of perspective of the uniformed that because oil money appears to be limitless that is reality. Depending on who and where oil at @$65-70 dollars a barrel or oil traded in currencies other than US dollar and big issues. Total Energies signing on for sponsorship responsibilities is a good thing overall but it's a cautionary tale..the auto market is volatile world wide , cycling enjoys sponsorship money from multiple brands currently and those funds should also never be counted as a forever flowing source of revenue.
As if things were not strange enough globally, Ineos Grenadier uses a very old school marketing approach in North America and year after year sales in the US for example are above average. The company gets pre orders and has sold out for each year since entering the market. Other car companies use metrics based on inventory ,none even Toyota and Honda always have leftovers were Ineos doesn't. So if sponsorship money is based on big market sales like US that's a good thing because yes overall car market has issues, currently Ineos products enjoy some niche space.
The thing that should concern British cycling buffs is that while sales of Grenadier are decent in US they aren't great everywhere else, despite @40% jump in North America company overall sounds pretty shaky. And George Hindcappie shouldn't see an opportunity because car companies in the US don't dump money into bike racing..

Still lots of others in the business don't see them surviving..? Would Ineos still sponsor bike racing if lion's share of sales were outside Europe? We shall see.
Will Total Energies end up with multiple teams?

Total-Energies will back Bernaudeau's teams (Pro team and Devo team) until end of 2026
 
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Total-Energies will back Bernaudeau's teams (Pro team and Devo team) until end of 2026
Absolutely true, part of the oil outlook is lower demand estimated for next @2 years.
Oil company investment in bike racing looks to have have some economic immunity despite overall industry they still spend on sports sponsorship. And most of the big countries and companies only put a few million into bike racing which is a tiny fraction of 1% of what they make. Ineos certainly has better stability than many others.. Visma for example.. And currently 3 teams are upside down..
Development teams look like an excellent risk reward ratio based on overall investment.