Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

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http://mag.ma/cnn/1818321

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orn94KTWwnw


Some people are better than Landis (Mr. I'll go with No) when it comes to lying. Some guys like Jemison can look you in the eye and tell you that they'd never ever dope, and give an impassioned response, just like Wiggins. Others, like Levi, just stare at the ground any time people mention taking an aspirin for a headache. It's so painfully obvious it hurts to watch.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if we'll be adding Wiggins to the above clips...
 
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Even if SKY were clean, i am wondering how soon can other team also learn this advanced training methods? before next year tour?
 
Aug 6, 2009
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Bernie's eyesore said:
Not enough swearing in that answer.

That wasn't a Wiggins reference, it was a reference to the IMO classic answer of Bjarne Riis when asked if he ever used doping. He said "I've never been tested positive like 8 times in a row in increasingly aggressive tones before he pulled himself together and just effing lied.
 
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Bonkstrong said:
No, but that is why he's loathed by many British people inside and outside of cycling. For the most part they don't know who he is, who he rides for, what his specialities are. But they do know he's a drugs cheat, plain and simple. It's a tag you won't shake easily in the UK.
I doubt more than 1 person in 100 you ask in the street know who Millar is, let alone that he was banned for doping.
 
armchairclimber said:
Funny place, The Clinic. You get a rider in yellow coming out with an unequivocal stance on doping....not "I've never tested positive" but "I've never doped and never will...and here's why".

The climbing power output stats are well within normal physiological boundaries (see the Sports Science boys).

Yet, there's a hard core of posters who seem to spend more time in the Clinic than anywhere else...I'm not even sure they watch the race. This hard core will never be satisfied, mainly because to be so would remove their raison d'etre.

You are parodies of yourselves. Wiggins was ill advised to publicly refer to you as c***s...I suspect he was right though.

Climbing power outputs are normal for good riders, not for someone who sucked like Wiggins until they suddenly were able to climb and became Armstrongs biggest fanboy on the same day.

And Wiggins is himself a **** for all the doping accusations he made (including all the people that were to win the next 6 tdfs even though he didnt know who they would be) and that should hang over him so long as he takes the - now that its me at the top you are no longer allowed to accuse winners of doping, stance.
 
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bigcog said:
Why is Evans is considered "clean", given some potentially dodgy history, for example Ferrari consultations ?

Because if you are to argue that anyone who won the Tour is clean in the last 20 years It's down to him and Sastre who haven't been flat out proven to dope, or very close to it. Some people would like to believe that so. Also slightly less cynically, he has won after the bio passport was implemented which does seemt o have made the sport cleaner.
 
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ultimobici said:
I doubt more than 1 person in 100 you ask in the street know who Millar is, let alone that he was banned for doping.

I'm not going to argue meaningless hypothetical statistics. I'm not saying he's a celebrity, I'm saying that those that of those that are aware of him are more likely to know him as a "drug-cheat" than "that guy that rides for Garmin