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Benotti69 said:
Laughing like a lunatic no doubt.:D

Imagine clean Wiggins beating OPQS&Ibauguren's Tony Martin, as commentators in cycling would say 'unbelievable'.........

Not sure what Contador has to do with it, sounds like sours grapes.
Consistency benotti. This has been going on for sometime. I predicted before the Vuelta all this would happen.
 
May 26, 2009
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Benotti69 said:
Laughing like a lunatic no doubt.:D

Imagine clean Wiggins beating OPQS&Ibauguren's Tony Martin, as commentators in cycling would say 'unbelievable'.........

Not sure what Contador has to do with it, sounds like sours grapes.
I'm sure the Sky fan we both know has disregarded that at the moment and will mention it the next time Martin beats Wiggins.
 
Jul 21, 2012
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gooner said:
Clearly you missed the context of all this.





Now I ask again. What is the difference between Martin who you think isn't clean and feel sorry for, and Wiggins who you think is doped to the gills?

You said in the PRR section just now, if Froome wins on Sunday cycling won't recover. Yet you said nothing of the sort in the Vuelta.

It's like listening to thunder. Full of tosh.
I dont like Wiggins and think he is a total fraud. Deal with it.

Everyone has their favourite dopers. You too. The difference is that I dont try to fool myself into thinking any of them are cleans.
 
May 26, 2010
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Bernie's eyesore said:
No result all season? I guess you haven't been watching!

1st National Time Trial Championships
1st Overall Tour of California
1st Stage 2 (ITT)

1st Time trial, Road World Championships

Nats and a small time race in USA really rocks the season, i mean that is legendary riding there:rolleyes: Up there with the best of them......:D
 
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Benotti69 said:
1st National Time Trial Championships
1st Overall Tour of California
1st Stage 2 (ITT)

1st Time trial, Road World Championships

Nats and a small time race in USA really rocks the season, i mean that is legendary riding there:rolleyes: Up there with the best of them......:D
So, very good results in most of the races he's taken part in this season then? To confirm exactly the point you're arguing with

the sceptic said:
Everyone has their favourite dopers.
I don't. And I think you've been found bang to rights in this thread. If you hate Wiggins, Froome, Sky or in fact anything British in generally, good for you - but how about putting a sock in it for once, because your hypocrisy in these threads (and your 'outrage' at their doped results) is comical
 
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Benotti69 said:
1st National Time Trial Championships
1st Overall Tour of California
1st Stage 2 (ITT)

1st Time trial, Road World Championships

Nats and a small time race in USA really rocks the season, i mean that is legendary riding there:rolleyes: Up there with the best of them......:D
1 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Team Sky 23:18:27
2 Rohan Dennis (Aus) Garmin Sharp 0:00:44
3 Taylor Phinney (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:00:52
4 Eloy Teruel Rovira (Spa) Jamis - Hagens Berman 0:01:08
5 Jesse Sergent (NZl) Trek Factory Racing 0:01:11

Always helps to look at the facts rather than your own biased opinions. That's an even more impressive performance than today's but apparently counts as 'a no result'. He only took 13 seconds more out of Dennis today over an extra 27km.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
1 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Team Sky 23:18:27
2 Rohan Dennis (Aus) Garmin Sharp 0:00:44
3 Taylor Phinney (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:00:52
4 Eloy Teruel Rovira (Spa) Jamis - Hagens Berman 0:01:08
5 Jesse Sergent (NZl) Trek Factory Racing 0:01:11

Always helps to look at the facts rather than your own biased opinions. That's an even more impressive performance than today's but apparently counts as 'a no result'. He only took 13 seconds more out of Dennis today over an extra 27km.
Yeah and what did UCI test for at ToC? The devil is in the detail ;) Always helpful......
 
Sep 14, 2011
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Benotti69 said:
Yeah and what did UCI test for at ToC? The devil is in the detail ;) Always helpful......
You just agreed with someone who said he had done nothing all year and now you are saying his performance in California was massively suspicious. Make your mind up.
 
May 26, 2010
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BradCantona said:
So, very good results in most of the races he's taken part in this season then? To confirm exactly the point you're arguing with
Where is ToC ranked in terms of races to get good results?

How about Nats TTs?

Why dont you compare Tony Martins TT results this year with Wiggins;)

Tour de France
1st Stages 9 & 20 (ITT)
Held after Stage 9
Combativity award Stages 9 & 10
Vuelta a España
1st Stage 10 (ITT)
Those are prestigious results in cycling terms.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
You just agreed with someone who said he had done nothing all year and now you are saying his performance in California was massively suspicious. Make your mind up.
Wiggins prior to 2009, a journey man road pro........mind made up. After then Wiggins the GT winner, top 3 TTer in the world.......big tme charlie doper. Mind made up.

You believe that Wiggins can race clean and beat dopers if you want, i live in the real world.
 
Sep 14, 2011
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Benotti69 said:
Where is ToC ranked in terms of races to get good results?

How about Nats TTs?

Why dont you compare Tony Martins TT results this year with Wiggins;)



Those are prestigious results in cycling terms.
1 Adriano Malori (Ita) Movistar Team 0:10:13
2 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Trek Factory Racing 0:00:06
3 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Team Sky 0:00:11
4 Tony Martin (Ger) Omega Pharma - Quick-Step Cycling Team 0:00:15
5 Tom Dumoulin (Ned) Team Giant-Shimano 0:00:19
 
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Benotti69 said:
Wiggins prior to 2009, a journey man road pro........mind made up. After then Wiggins the GT winner, top 3 TTer in the world.......big tme charlie doper. Mind made up.

You believe that Wiggins can race clean and beat dopers if you want, i live in the real world.
When did I say he is clean? You're just making stuff up now.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
1 Adriano Malori (Ita) Movistar Team 0:10:13
2 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Trek Factory Racing 0:00:06
3 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Team Sky 0:00:11
4 Tony Martin (Ger) Omega Pharma - Quick-Step Cycling Team 0:00:15
5 Tom Dumoulin (Ned) Team Giant-Shimano 0:00:19
all i see are the names of 5 dopers.
 
Bernie's eyesore said:
1 Adriano Malori (Ita) Movistar Team 0:10:13
2 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Trek Factory Racing 0:00:06
3 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Team Sky 0:00:11
4 Tony Martin (Ger) Omega Pharma - Quick-Step Cycling Team 0:00:15
5 Tom Dumoulin (Ned) Team Giant-Shimano 0:00:19
What race is this? 10 minutes? A prologue then...?
 
Mar 25, 2013
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the sceptic said:
I dont like Wiggins and think he is a total fraud. Deal with it.

Everyone has their favourite dopers. You too. The difference is that I dont try to fool myself into thinking any of them are cleans.
You speak about "a horrible day for clean cycling" and then talk about having favourite dopers at the same time.

You're digging.

Lets face it, your "horrible day for clean cycling" seems to only apply to British/Sky riders.
 
Sep 14, 2011
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red_flanders said:
What race is this? 10 minutes? A prologue then...?
Tirreno Adriatico. Not really an ideal distance for Wiggins these days but still a pretty decent performance. Better to judge him on his California win.
 
gooner said:
You speak about "a horrible day for clean cycling" and then talk about having favourite dopers at the same time.

You're digging.

Lets face it, your "horrible day for clean cycling" seems to only apply to British/Sky riders.
It's all become a bit tedious again. Hasn't it.

A question for you Gooner, why is it, in your opinion, given the diverse nationalities of posters on here including some close rivalries, is there so much anti Brit posting in the Sky/Wiggins/Froome threads?
 
Jul 21, 2012
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gooner said:
You speak about "a horrible day for clean cycling" and then talk about having favourite dopers at the same time.

You're digging.

Lets face it, your "horrible day for clean cycling" seems to only apply to British/Sky riders.
And your defence of obvious dopers only applies to brits.
 

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