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funny,
Froome admits in the Kimmage interview that he knew about Leinders' doping past.
Yet Braislford somehow didn't...

(from that soundcloud posted by Benotti earlier,.
some other strong comments in there, mainly from the two hosts, who make pretty clear they don't believe a word Brailsford is saying.
the journo who gets interviewed is fool though.
 
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TailWindHome said:
The Landis interview. Did anyone else read it before it was edited at 18.12GMT?

The Froome TUE was described as backdated rather than fast tracked - or am I imagining it?

Nope it said backdated.
 
TailWindHome said:
The Landis interview. Did anyone else read it before it was edited at 18.12GMT?

The Froome TUE was described as backdated rather than fast tracked - or am I imagining it?
It was definitely changed. (The quote makes a lot less sense in it's current form).

Given that it's a direct quote that's a big breach of journalistic ethics from Benson.
 
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Parker said:
It was definitely changed. (The quote makes a lot less sense in it's current form).

Given that it's a direct quote that's a big breach of journalistic ethics from Benson.

Criticise Benson and his journalistic ethics, who is only a 'messenger', but defend a doping team......hmmmmmm
 
samhocking said:
Variable n = Doping Dr/Staff whoever you think is the reason for success
Event A - 10 years Track Success
Event B - 2 Years Road Success.

Same rider, same key staff same success despite variable n existing or not.

The nearest anyone has got to answering is that Track cycling simply doesn't count and variable n isn't required. I argue it is and BC are doping on the track or not doping on both. It can't be a mixture of both when Brailsford & Wiggins exist as the success in both concurrently at the same time often in the same year. (Olympics, Worlds & Tour)

We have a winner.

Lance doped before Ferrari. He just doped better with Ferrari.

Leinders isn't the only doping doctor in the world.

Dave.
 
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Parker said:
Do you think a journalist correcting factual errors in a direct quote is OK then?

Corrected being the operative word. An error was corrected. Unlike the lies spewing forth from TeamSky.............
 
Benotti69 said:
Corrected being the operative word. An error was corrected.
But it is a quote. Changing quotes is unethical in journalism. The quote must stand by itself. If it is incorrect, it shows us Landis's level of knowledge.

Benson is not Landis's PR representative. You complain about British journalists not asking the right questions, but here is Benson writing the answers.
 
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Parker said:
But it is a quote. Changing quotes is unethical in journalism. The quote must stand by itself. If it is incorrect, it shows us Landis's level of knowledge.

Benson is not Landis's PR representative. You complain about British journalists not asking the right questions, but here is Benson writing the answers.
that's exactly the problem.
you don't complain about British journalists not asking the right questions, but here you are nitpicking on Benson.
keep up the good work.
 
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Parker said:
That's because I know that they do ask the questions. (But unlike Benson, they don't make up their own answers.)

Got a link to British JournalistS asking doping questions?
 
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Parker said:
Name one that got sent home.
right, difficult to ignore the other part of digger's post.
brailsford calling editors to complain when journos threaten to dig deep.:)

(and remember brailsford flipping in front of the camera when that journo asked him why we're not seeing froome's pre-2011 values? the guy was merely asking the right question.)
 
Digger said:
I could name one, not kimmage or walsh, who was threatened by his editor to write positive Sky or come home from the tour.
But you said someone got sent home from the Tour. Not threatened with it. Journalists routinely get threatened. They shake it off.

I don't doubt that Brailsford got arsey with a lot of journalists. Journalists aren't angels. They can be dicks too. Or did I imagine Leveson?
 
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Parker said:
No. But I know a guy who hosted press conferences. He said there were a lot of questions about doping. He was surprised.

The guy knows nothing about professional cycling then. But no link to these press conferences full of media asking doping questions?
 
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Parker said:
But you said someone got sent home from the Tour. Not threatened with it. Journalists routinely get threatened. They shake it off.

I don't doubt that Brailsford got arsey with a lot of journalists. Journalists aren't angels. They can be dicks too. Or did I imagine Leveson?
he didn;t get arsey with journos because they were being dicks.
he got arsey with them because they asked questions.