Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Electress]

Re:

Masterclass in rewriting history from Matthew Syed
https://twitter.com/mocycling/status/839802311216099329

:lol:

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

Masterclass in rewriting history from Matthew Syed
https://twitter.com/mocycling/status/839802311216099329

:lol:

Syed claiming SDB introduced windtunnels.
Seriously. I think CN should take an official stance distancing themselves from that piece of 'journalism', because this is just one step too far.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Masterclass in rewriting history from Matthew Syed
https://twitter.com/mocycling/status/839802311216099329

:lol:

Syed claiming SDB introduced windtunnels.
Seriously. I think CN should take an official stance distancing themselves from that piece of 'journalism', because this is just one step too far.

I liked the "he introduced complex algorithms" without stating what they were or how they were applied, then said "hand gels".

*** me that is terrible.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

^
I wonder what other Times sports staff think off Syed.
Every UK citizen should be seriously pissed off to be paying Syeds BBC wage.

 

[Dan2016]

Re:

Masterclass in rewriting history from Matthew Syed
https://twitter.com/mocycling/status/839802311216099329

Jesus Christ! Thanks for posting that. I was laughing my tits off from start to finish. Absolutely hilarious.

 

[Irondan]

Re: Re:

Masterclass in rewriting history from Matthew Syed
https://twitter.com/mocycling/status/839802311216099329

:lol:

Interestingly enough, he mentioned nothing of rounder wheels and fluffier pillows.

:lol: Dave B. introduced cleaning of the hands with (wait for it)... Hand gel! That had never been done before Dave Brailsford started the marginal gains program at Sky. :lol:

What a tool...

 

[The Hitch]

Re: Sky

If Sky fall, people like this HAVE to be taken to account.

It can't be like with Armstrong that the biggest scumbags of all - Ligget, Kirby etc, got to pretend they weren't part of it

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

Masterclass in rewriting history from Matthew Syed
https://twitter.com/mocycling/status/839802311216099329

:lol:

Syed claiming SDB introduced windtunnels.
Seriously. I think CN should take an official stance distancing themselves from that piece of 'journalism', because this is just one step too far.

I liked the "he introduced complex algorithms" without stating what they were or how they were applied, then said "hand gels".

**** me that is terrible.

hand gels came after the prescriptions for viagra

 

[sniper]

Re: Sky

If Sky fall, people like this HAVE to be taken to account.

It can't be like with Armstrong that the biggest scumbags of all - Ligget, Kirby etc, got to pretend they weren't part of it

Totally. And thats why it's good that Syed perpetuated his charlatanry in that vid.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

This - although amusing - has the whiff of barrel-scraping.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4295230/Team-Sky-tried-sex-pill-Viagra-search-advantage.html

Aye, but it does let the blood flow to parts that, erm, maybe, need a wee boost Wouldn't know personally

Question is will it stand up in court...

 

[Random Direction]

Re: Re:

This - although amusing - has the whiff of barrel-scraping.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4295230/Team-Sky-tried-sex-pill-Viagra-search-advantage.html

Aye, but it does let the blood flow to parts that, erm, maybe, need a wee boost Wouldn't know personally

Question is will it stand up in court...

A marginal gain would be putting a T patch on the wee, then using V to increase blood flow and absorption of the T.

 

[yaco]

Re: Sky

Also re laptop. If they could delete it remotely they could also have saved the files remotely, no?

Sky still playing the wrong game with fans and media. More than one hole in the ***.

Still the main protagonists, Freeman and Wiggins not answering the simple question of what was in the Jiffy Bag and their reluctance to tell us with proof is just a disaster for a team that promised to be clean and transparent.

It's not our business what is in the jiffy Bag - It's the business of UKAD if they can uncover evidence.

Considering the public's money was abused, i would argue it is the public's business.

Strange that I'm the one who has been beating the drum, that this is potentially a bigger issue for BC than Sky - Yet 90% of the discussion is about Sky - You sound like one of the MP's who have beat their chests in the last eight years in blind and wilful ignorance, yet now are seen as the saviours of cycling.

 

[yaco]

Re:

This - although amusing - has the whiff of barrel-scraping.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4295230/Team-Sky-tried-sex-pill-Viagra-search-advantage.html

You need to see this in a wider context - Read about Salazar's program and you will get inside the mind of athletes - It's all about taking a mixture of legal supplements to improve performance, and at times you may cross the line in both legal and ethical terms

 

[yaco]

Re:

Is it too simple to suggest that if a rider needs a TUE, then they shouldn't be racing for "health" reasons?

A TUE has its place out of competition ( and in isolated cases in-competition ) in which an athlete has an operation and may need to take prohibited substances.

 

[Ironhead Slim]

Re: Sky

Also re laptop. If they could delete it remotely they could also have saved the files remotely, no?

Sky still playing the wrong game with fans and media. More than one hole in the ***.

Still the main protagonists, Freeman and Wiggins not answering the simple question of what was in the Jiffy Bag and their reluctance to tell us with proof is just a disaster for a team that promised to be clean and transparent.

It's not our business what is in the jiffy Bag - It's the business of UKAD if they can uncover evidence.

Considering the public's money was abused, i would argue it is the public's business.

Strange that I'm the one who has been beating the drum, that this is potentially a bigger issue for BC than Sky - Yet 90% of the discussion is about Sky - You sound like one of the MP's who have beat their chests in the last eight years in blind and wilful ignorance, yet now are seen as the saviours of cycling.

Sky was born out of BC. Don't be pedantic.

 

[yaco]

Re: Sky

Also re laptop. If they could delete it remotely they could also have saved the files remotely, no?

Sky still playing the wrong game with fans and media. More than one hole in the ***.

Still the main protagonists, Freeman and Wiggins not answering the simple question of what was in the Jiffy Bag and their reluctance to tell us with proof is just a disaster for a team that promised to be clean and transparent.

It's not our business what is in the jiffy Bag - It's the business of UKAD if they can uncover evidence.

Considering the public's money was abused, i would argue it is the public's business.

Strange that I'm the one who has been beating the drum, that this is potentially a bigger issue for BC than Sky - Yet 90% of the discussion is about Sky - You sound like one of the MP's who have beat their chests in the last eight years in blind and wilful ignorance, yet now are seen as the saviours of cycling.

Sky was born out of BC. Don't be pedantic.

How am i being pedantic - Blind Freddie can see the relationship between Sky and B,c and potentially the misuse of the relationship - The difference is that BC gets 'Lottery Money' so there is always a chance the Government reduces their amount of funding - Whereas Sky receives their money from private sponsorship

 

[Catwhoorg]

Re: Re:

Is it too simple to suggest that if a rider needs a TUE, then they shouldn't be racing for "health" reasons?

A TUE has its place out of competition ( and in isolated cases in-competition ) in which an athlete has an operation and may need to take prohibited substances.

Perfect example of a necessary IC TUE.
A type 1 diabetic getting a one for insulin.


They really should be rare for in-competition though.

 

[TheSpud]

Re: Re:

^
I wonder what other Times sports staff think off Syed.
Every UK citizen should be seriously pissed off to be paying Syeds BBC wage.

Most people in the UK are pissed off with paying the wage of anyone at the BBC

 

[blackcat]

Syed was just trolling. That is not serious.

That is one of the best #Poe's_law trolls I have seen.

#marginalgainsmayjusttransformtheworld
#straitface no gh. as in, #straitjacket if not trolling
no #hyperbole
hashtags
#portmanteau

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Sky

Also re laptop. If they could delete it remotely they could also have saved the files remotely, no?

Sky still playing the wrong game with fans and media. More than one hole in the ***.

Still the main protagonists, Freeman and Wiggins not answering the simple question of what was in the Jiffy Bag and their reluctance to tell us with proof is just a disaster for a team that promised to be clean and transparent.

It's not our business what is in the jiffy Bag - It's the business of UKAD if they can uncover evidence.

Considering the public's money was abused, i would argue it is the public's business.

Strange that I'm the one who has been beating the drum, that this is potentially a bigger issue for BC than Sky - Yet 90% of the discussion is about Sky - You sound like one of the MP's who have beat their chests in the last eight years in blind and wilful ignorance, yet now are seen as the saviours of cycling.

You hacked Kimmage down for beating the drum yet you are only on here since 2015(allegedly)........

This is the Sky thread so relates to Sky.

The BC thread has BC related content and discussion.

More fail.

 

[thehook]

IMHO

Current state of Pro Cycling at Team SKY......and others

Low Octane
Kenacourt- Great to train on. No TUE needed. Burns Mucho Fat. Recovery aid........Race on as well TUE needed
Viagra- Perfect for a Mountain stage. It acts as a Vaso Dilator. Last 3-4 ours. Dilates ALL Blood Vessels. Not just the wanker.
Tramadol; Low dose finishing bottle. Dulls the pain. Would work great when used with the top ^ 2.
Cortico cream due to skin rash?



High Octane
Altitude Camp. Skews Passport so EPO possible.
OR go to SA to train with a buddy. Micro dose

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

IMHO

Current state of Pro Cycling at Team SKY......and others

Low Octane
Kenacourt- Great to train on. No TUE needed. Burns Mucho Fat. Recovery aid........Race on as well TUE needed
Viagra- Perfect for a Mountain stage. It acts as a Vaso Dilator. Last 3-4 ours. Dilates ALL Blood Vessels. Not just the 'custard'.
Tramadol; Low dose finishing bottle. Dulls the pain. Would work great when used with the top ^ 2.
Cortico cream due to skin rash?



High Octane
Altitude Camp. Skews Passport so EPO possible.
OR go to SA to train with a buddy. Micro dose

CIRC report had riders taking up to 30 tablets a day during GTs. If that was only Viagra and Tramadol it would be strange.

 

[red_flanders]

Re:

IMHO

Current state of Pro Cycling at Team SKY......and others

Low Octane
Kenacourt- Great to train on. No TUE needed. Burns Mucho Fat. Recovery aid........Race on as well TUE needed
Viagra- Perfect for a Mountain stage. It acts as a Vaso Dilator. Last 3-4 ours. Dilates ALL Blood Vessels. Not just the 'custard'.
Tramadol; Low dose finishing bottle. Dulls the pain. Would work great when used with the top ^ 2.
Cortico cream due to skin rash?



High Octane
Altitude Camp. Skews Passport so EPO possible.
OR go to SA to train with a buddy. Micro dose

This is the current state of what we know they're doing. I'll eat my hat if I know even a fraction of what's really going on.

 

[blackcat]

lipotropin, AICAR, GW, IGF-II, testo, slin, hgh, CJC, autologous transfusions, russian epo, any number of cortisone family

just some

 

[TheSpud]

Re: Re:

IMHO

Current state of Pro Cycling at Team SKY......and others

Low Octane
Kenacourt- Great to train on. No TUE needed. Burns Mucho Fat. Recovery aid........Race on as well TUE needed
Viagra- Perfect for a Mountain stage. It acts as a Vaso Dilator. Last 3-4 ours. Dilates ALL Blood Vessels. Not just the 'custard'.
Tramadol; Low dose finishing bottle. Dulls the pain. Would work great when used with the top ^ 2.
Cortico cream due to skin rash?

30 tablets or 30 different tablets? Makes a difference. You can take 6 ibuprofens a day if you want (or 12 on prescription) as well as 8 paracetamol. So that's 14 quite easily ...




High Octane
Altitude Camp. Skews Passport so EPO possible.
OR go to SA to train with a buddy. Micro dose

CIRC report had riders taking up to 30 tablets a day during GTs. If that was only Viagra and Tramadol it would be strange.

30 tablets or 30 different tablets? You can take 8 paracetamol and 6 ibuprofen a day without prescription. Add in some vitamins, CLA and L-Carnitine and you could be near 20 already.

I don't dispute what is said - it just needs context.