Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[SeriousSam]

Re: Sky

The Analytics Revolution is coming in football. Other sports, however had it happen earlier:
(http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...all-betting-analytics-moneyball-a7934181.html)

Not enough football clubs think like this, but it has been very successful in other sports. Campbell points to the example of how Team Sky won the 2012 Tour de France, breaking down what they needed for Bradley Wiggins to win the tour.

“Team Sky profiled that year’s Tour de France, with historic data of requirements on the climbs and the time trials. They knew it was an opportunity for competitive advantage, because it had never been done before. So they plotted a power curve, with time along the x-axis and power on the y-axis, marking what power output the Tour winner would need and when. Then they looked at Brad’s curve, looked at the gaps. And they had the techniques to bridge them. The analytics are what enabled them to the understand the difference between where they were, and where they wanted to get to.”

Where were you when Team Sky invented the power curve in 2012?

 

[MartinGT]

Not watched much of the Vuelta after the Dawg was upto his old tricks. Jeeez today I watched last 30km. Nah, not for me anymore.

 

[S2Sturges]

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Not watched much of the Vuelta after the Dawg was upto his old tricks. Jeeez today I watched last 30km. Nah, not for me anymore.

Not to mention five teammates with him with 30km to go, and Moscon showing how much inner fat he's lost..
Froome shook off his ritual "bad day" and is all fresh and perky again, order restored....

 

[Breh]

Moscon's such a fcking sad joke.

 

[MartinGT]

Kwia at the TDF and Now Moscon at the Vuelta.

Laughable.


Just taking the p!ss out of everyone else.

 

[thehog]

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Kwia at the TDF and Now Moscon at the Vuelta.

Laughable.


Just taking the p!ss out of everyone else.

Have to agree. They keep churning out these guys. The doms also like putting in an awesome TT performance as well to rub it in.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Remember ya'll - this, too, shall pass.

And then we'll get the next train (whether doped to the gills or motorized)... I don't think there is a way to fix professional cycling. Or any pro sport for that matter. As long as money is involved there cannot be honor involved simultaneously. (Well, that's what I think at any rate.)

 

[Parker]

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Kwia at the TDF and Now Moscon at the Vuelta.

Kwiatkowski came 11th in the Tour in 2013 while at Quick Step. (He was also getting involved in sprints as well in that Tour)

 

[Benotti69]

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Kwia at the TDF and Now Moscon at the Vuelta.

Kwiatkowski came 11th in the Tour in 2013 while at Quick Step. (He was also getting involved in sprints as well in that Tour)

Oh well Quick Step are so cleans so Kwia is legit. :lol:

 

[The Hegelian]

In the first week I thought "What Moscon is doing is pretty suss - but the climbs are short and punchy, it's not that strange that a power rider with his class and potential can do that to the peloton."

But into the third week, there's no but. It's frigging ridiculous and unbelievable how Moscon has been climbing.

Did he drop Lopez and Chaves??

I don't think it remotely compares with Kwia. I reckon Kwia is 2nd to Sagan as the most talented rider in the peloton, and he has the palmares to back it up. He's ridden the peloton off his back wheel numerous times before, and it has always been an open question whether he could mature into a GC rider.

 

[thehog]

Re: Sky

scary ***

Liz Miller (@SkyFanJersey)
@NieveMikel Best wishes always, dear Mikel. Meantime, let's go get all these Jerseys! Vroom vroom Froome, go Frosty go Team Sky

 

[Robert5091]

Re: Sky

Whatever is on Sky's dinner menu is certainly keeping them fresh.

 

[Cycle Chic]

David Millar commentating on yesterdays stage. He said the chasing group on the climb was full of all the MAIN GC CONTENDERS.

Well it was - but it also had the whole of Team Sky amongst them. Made me laugh.

 

[DanielSong39]

I don't know what's more comical; Froome's miraculous recovery yesterday or seeing Froome surrounded by 6 teammates halfway up the final climb the day before.

Enjoy the show!

 

[Benotti69]

25km to go and Froome has 6 team mates while other GC leaders are redued to 1,2 or 3!!!!!

 

[Benotti69]

Poels dropping everyone bar Froome. F*** O**

 

[Benotti69]

Poels to be next GT rider

 

[El Pistolero]

Mediocre rider Poels all of a sudden dropping everyone on Angliru. Lol... Has he even won 10 races in his career? He was decent at QS, but this is 2 levels above that.

 

[portugal11]

This team is ridiculous... 5 riders in a group of 11 riders... sorry but they have to go, they are so juiced and full of motor doping

 

[DanielSong39]

Sky unbelievably strong, once again!

Maybe it's an optical illusion but the Vuelta seemed to be ridden at a higher level than the Tour and Sky was even more dominant in the Vuelta compared to the Tour.

 

[killswitch]

5 riders in top 19, Moscon 13th place on the stage...

 

[ppanther92]

6 in a group of 13 and Chris Poels dropping everyone. Even had to wait for Bradley Froome...

But sure, nothing to see here.

 

[ppanther92]

And friggin Moscon almost climbing in the Top10 on a stage like this and with his frame. Seriously that was on par with Rogers-Porte-Froome-Wiggins train of 2012.

 

[deValtos]

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Mediocre rider Poels all of a sudden dropping everyone on Angliru. Lol... Has he even won 10 races in his career? He was decent at QS, but this is 2 levels above that.

You've probably forgotten Poels stats on Angliru/Zoncolan climbs, it dates back well before QS when he was in Vaconsoleil. His climb today was pretty comparable to the one he did in 2011 where he dropped Froome.

 

[El Pistolero]

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Mediocre rider Poels all of a sudden dropping everyone on Angliru. Lol... Has he even won 10 races in his career? He was decent at QS, but this is 2 levels above that.

You've probably forgotten Poels stats on Angliru/Zoncolan climbs, it dates back well before QS when he was in Vaconsoleil. His climb today was pretty comparable to the one he did in 2011 where he dropped Froome.

Vacansoleil was notorious for its doping abuse. See recent comments made by Dutch cycling doctor. I hope they nail him soon.