Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Moose McKnuckles]

How on earth would I know?
Does that answer your question?

Indeed it does. You want to ignore the most obvious reasons for Sky's improvements and are throwing out random ideas. Thanks for sharing.

 

[roundabout]

http://blogs.teamskyfans.com/?p=161

no need to read it all, just the last line. Written by someone at team skyfans.
I wonder what they will say to retract that if he wins.

What is funny about the blog is that the innovative Sky aren't really much closer to a major classics victory now than they were in 2011.

However it's extremely likely that a Sky rider will win the Tour in 13 days time.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I do not think

We noticed.

 

[Dr.Sahl]

He already did, in Romandie.

^^ in the tour ofc....

But even that would not suprise me atm... but again.. I really look forward to next stage, when the other contenders will attack contantly and froome just riding a fast pace catching all and wiggins winning by 3 mins.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

It's just my opinion, but thank you for calling it stupid anyways. We wouldn't really know unless they went head to head. I don't think that will happen in a stage race with both mountains and TT's for sometime, but shoot me a PM when they do to remind me and maybe you can call my opinion stupid again??

Ok, will certainly do

 

[wattage]

So Wiggins went from 77kg to 69kg, he probably lost some weight but 8kgs

 

[cycladianpirate]

You could be legitimately p'd off that:

a) Sky are considered clean because they're British or because they said so.
b) They could be protected like US Postal.

I adore this response (and I'm sorry it's taken me so long to reply to it). Let me get this straight. The options now are down to two:

1. We're back to the idea that only Sky is doping.....or

2. Other teams are brave, maverick dopers but Sky is sanctioned via pay-offs

Cutting analysis

 

[roundabout]

Hmm, I am no expert in identifying backgrounds, but that pic seems to be from the Herald Sun TT.

Guess Wiggins only slimmed down for the Tour back then?

 

[wattage]

Hmm, I am no expert in identifying backgrounds, but that pic seems to be from the Herald Sun TT.

Guess Wiggins only slimmed down for the Tour back then?

That Garmin pic is from the 2009 Giro TT

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

So Wiggins went from 77kg to 69kg, he probably lost some weight but 8kgs

I think he had his brain-to-mouth interface removed; as well as (based on his cheerleading, anyway) one testicle.

 

[maxmartin]

Evans interview after stage

http://www.steephill.tv/players/720...d=tour-de-france&id=48123107,33399756&yr=2012

 

[richtea]

I think his weird how he can tranform to a all powerfull monster on 1 year (yes 1 year) he is the best in all almost all fields... whats next ?? will he win a sprint on the flat

This is a reflection of how miserably weak the opposition is at the Tour this year, rather than a sign of Wiggins' omnipotence. One of the two superior TT specialists was run down by a car a couple of months ago and had a puncture, while the other has spent most of the Spring recovering from his own injuries. Going uphill they couldn't even get rid of Nibali, left behind at will during the Giro last year.

 

[roundabout]

That Garmin pic is from the 2009 Giro TT

Oh. Well, he was 21st on an HC climb in that Giro despite being a blimp.

 

[noddy69]

This is a reflection of how miserably weak the opposition is at the Tour this year, rather than a sign of Wiggins' omnipotence. One of the two superior TT specialists was run down by a car a couple of months ago and had a puncture, while the other has spent most of the Spring recovering from his own injuries. Going uphill they couldn't even get rid of Nibali, left behind at will during the Giro last year.

I dont think so. Cancellara is the yard stick for TT here. If you take out the sky 2 performances its not that much of a shock result in the TT.
As for the opposition being weak, well you are having a laugh now.Last years winner is there....he beat any that are not here remember that result,it was only last year. All the top cyclists that matter are here so how you can call that a weak field is laughable in my opinion.

 

[thehog]

I dont think so. Cancellara is the yard stick for TT here. If you take out the sky 2 performances its not that much of a shock result in the TT.
As for the opposition being weak, well you are having a laugh now.Last years winner is there....he beat any that are not here remember that result,it was only last year. All the top cyclists that matter are here so how you can call that a weak field is laughable in my opinion.

Indurain, Armstrong and Contador are not there. Very weak field.

 

[noddy69]

Indurain, Armstrong and Contador are not there. Very weak field.

True, I forgot about Merckx and Zulle aswell. No wonder it looks easy for them.

 

[Dalakhani]

Indeed it does. You want to ignore the most obvious reasons for Sky's improvements and are throwing out random ideas. Thanks for sharing.

Perhaps if you bothered to read what I wrote (starting with my first post back on page 120), you might actually understand the context of what I wrote about the possibility of Sky coming up with new ideas.

Clearly you haven't read that post - or, at least, not properly.

 

[issoisso]

Jani is very sociable. He has a account and posted few times on PCM.Daily.

Yes, and from those posts we have gleamed that he is not in any way to be trusted.

For example, in late 2007 the rumour was that he was signing with Astana. He posted yelling like a madman at everyone that "what kind of person do you think I am?" and that he'd never be associated with those dopers.

3 days later he was officially announced as an Astana rider.

Clearly someone you can trust

 

[richtea]

You can see how poor Cancellara's TT was by how close Van Garderen was, in form you would expect minutes over this distance. Meanwhile, Evans has gone from being 45 secs up on his colleague at the Dauphine to 45 seconds down. It's just embarassing.

 

[ruamruam]

True, I forgot about Merckx and Zulle aswell. No wonder it looks easy for them.

And whatever is wrong with Coppi he just is not featuring in this years race. Maybe he will improve for the mountains

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Evans must slay the many-headed Skydra.

 

[will10]

Jani is very sociable. He has a account and posted few times on PCM.Daily.

He might have cyclingews account too, I dunno. Thing is, he reads forums and stuff like that...

Jani used to post as gianni as far back as 2004 on the PPDB forum. He wrote an awesome race report when he was second in Trentino behind Gonchar

 

[noddy69]

And whatever is wrong with Coppi he just is not featuring in this years race. Maybe he will improve for the mountains

True, and Kelly must be injured too, at least he got some work commentating, his downhill skills would have been useful Wednesday. Always next year I suppose.

 

[college]

Maybe he called up Landis to get some pointers on Amish dedication and hard work?

Why, maybe Wiggins embraced this Amish ethos in preparation for the tour by riding up Mount Ventoux 8 times a day with two panier bags full of cows milk and a freshly slaughtered lamb strapped to his downtube in order to work harder? If that isn't hard work and determination, then I don't know what is.

Apologies to anyone Amish, I don't mean to offend.

Floyd was never Amish from what I understand. You might want to check that at the door.
Wiggins just wants this more than the rest of the general classification cyclist and has been focused training just for this tour.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Floyd was never Amish from what I understand. You might want to check that at the door.
Wiggins just wants this more than the rest of the general classification cyclist and has been focused training just for this tour.

Thanks for that insight, Chris.