Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[BYOP88]

So next week for Milan-San Remo, Skybots to control the race for 298km then random Sky rider wins followed by a few team mates in the top 10. Then repeat for RVV etc.

 

[frenchfry]

Awsome Post!

I have never really agreed with theHog and you on anything. But in regards to SKY and the recent racing it is like watching a red white and blue team from the past.

Last year I didn't waste a lot of energy thinking about Sky, though I though the TDF was a ridiculous show.

Now I am jumping on the "not normal" bandwagon. Agreed about the resemblance with USPS, though they have interchangable leaders so appear to be better at the sharing thing. Maybe it is the British good manners.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Like I said some pages ago, rumors are already that Sky is using something like this. And. contrary to what Vaughters says, it is not detectable and due to the nature of the product might not be detectable ever.

Your post was the first I had heard of this, and forgot to thank you for the info. Thanks.

 

[thehog]

keep watching....

I did.

Skyborg4572a Porte smashed it.

He even soft pedaled and still won by a massive margin.

 

[Netserk]

2012: 9.5 km
2013 9.6 km

 

[forkboy84]

Yeah alright. I mean I'm not a Sky fan but I guess I am sympathetic to them & happy to see a British team doing well. But I'm convinced. Sky cannot be this dominant without the aid of illegal "techniques", or else the entire world of cycling is run by total amateurs & Sky is the only team run professionally. And that latter option seems too absurd to worth consider as time as passed since the 2012 Tour, so I'm pretty much just waiting for Sky to get found out, be it tomorrow or in a decades time.

They are just too dominant, & as others have said, look even more in control than US Postal once did. And they are so arrogant that now they aren't even trying to hide it.

 

[bianchigirl]

Oh right, who could forget the fairy tales of Peraud being capable of producing 6.5 w/kg.

He obviously should have trounced Porte today if that was true.

That's the point - Vayer knows Peraud is clean and his performance believable. Porte took over a minute out of him over 9.6km.

Not Normal

 

[Parrulo]

 

[The Chicken]

LMAO bahahahahhaha

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[will10]

2012: 9.5 km
2013 9.6 km

That's not what the official site says, and I place more faith in that than CQ Ranking. The profiles match on the ASO site, too.

 

[cineteq]

Woah, I predicted that Sky would go easy on the juice this year. Looks like I couldn't have been more wrong.

Instead they seem to have gone full ***.

Same here, we were totally wrong. Fck!!

 

[Netserk]

That's not what the official site says, and I place more faith in that than CQ Ranking. The profiles match on the ASO site, too.

Just checked letour too, and it was the same both years....

 

[cineteq]

Just checked letour too, and it was the same both years....

That doesn't change at all what I think.

 

[thehog]

CyclingNews at it again:

“The team pulled for the last 50km and did excellent work,” said Froome, matter-of-factly. At the same time in France, Richie Porte was riding towards another prestigious victory for Sky at Paris-Nice. It seems that marginal gains add up to some big differences.

and Nibs has no chance.

“I paid a price for the infernal rhythm of Froome’s team in the finale,” Nibali admitted, highlighting how, yet again, Sky’s strength in numbers proved decisive at Tirreno-Adriatico. Dario Cataldo, Sergio Henao and Rigoberto Uran were the men who drove the blue jersey group over the summit of the Passo Lanciano and continued to whittle it down on the rolling run-in to the finish at Chieti.

 

[maltiv]

So next week for Milan-San Remo, Skybots to control the race for 298km then random Sky rider wins followed by a few team mates in the top 10. Then repeat for RVV etc.

Problem is that most of the classic's guys are naturally talented riders who were good in their youth.

Sky prefers to win with riders who were completely dogshit before they turned 25 or so. Just to troll us all.

So we all know who will win M-SR, RVV and P-R: Gabriel Rasch

 

[the sceptic]

I like CN's thinly veiled doping allegations. Best they can do without saying it like it is.

 

[Afrank]

Woah, I predicted that Sky would go easy on the juice this year. Looks like I couldn't have been more wrong.

Instead they seem to have gone full ***.

Yep, this is all just getting a bit too ridiculous, Sky can't last long if they continue on this path of winning everything. The more they dominate the more people will start to notice that something is clearly not right here.

 

[Parrulo]

Yep, this is all just getting a bit too ridiculous, Sky can't last long if they continue on this path of winning everything. The more they dominate the more people will start to notice that something is clearly not right here.

i also was on the sky will chill after the olympic year bandwagon but i couldn't be more wrong

 

[BYOP88]

Problem is that most of the classic's guys are naturally talented riders who were good in their youth.

Sky prefers to win with riders who were completely dogshit before they turned 25 or so. Just to troll us all.

So we all know who will win M-SR, RVV and P-R: Gabriel Rasch

That's a great call with Rasch. Just off to the bookies to place a bet!

 

[Benotti69]

i also was on the sky will chill after the olympic year bandwagon but i couldn't be more wrong

Yeah no doubt people thought Armstrong would stop at 5 TdFs, then 6 but no keep rubbing it in everyone's face.

 

[airstream]

Global doping panic which probably came to cycling with Operacion Puerto became a new landmark in perception of races we observe. Any big changes and any new faces are handled negatively and even contemptuously. To me, it is utterly strange and sad...

 

[bobbins]

Here's a checklist for dominating cycling;

Big money sponsor that the UCI will want to look after
Get in bed with a tame national federation, even better if it is one that people think is clean. This should make OOC testing a bit less of a headache
Get the UCI in your pocket, invite its president to your launch, really look after him, I mean really look after him
Buy the press - nice weeks away with the team in majorca and at selected races, loads of freebies should do this.
Get David Walshe on the sponsors payroll
Get a believable reason that the gullible public and your new fans can swallow. Marginal gains, riders lucky duvets, having a chef, choosing your own wheels.

USPS only missed one or two off. They could have had it all.

It's only March and I can't bare to watch the cycling on TV, very sad.

 

[thehog]

Here's a checklist for dominating cycling;

Big money sponsor that the UCI will want to look after
Get in bed with a tame national federation, even better if it is one that people think is clean. This should make OOC testing a bit less of a headache
Get the UCI in your pocket, invite its president to your launch, really look after him, I mean really look after him
Buy the press - nice weeks away with the team in majorca and at selected races, loads of freebies should do this.
Get David Walshe on the sponsors payroll
Get a believable reason that the gullible public and your new fans can swallow. Marginal gains, riders lucky duvets, having a chef, choosing your own wheels.

USPS only missed one or two off. They could have had it all.

It's only March and I can't bare to watch the cycling on TV, very sad.

They will need a charity or foundation soon to use as a shield.

and

Present to ASO (but not the public) a week before the race so you're covered from all angles.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

They will need a charity or foundation soon to use as a shield.

and

Present to ASO (but not the public) a week before the race so you're covered from all angles.

And they need a Chris Comical - someone who can milk, I mean train people in the Sky way of marginal gains. I thought that was why they had Kerrison but he is not good in front of the camera.

 

[thehog]

And they need a Chris Comical - someone who can milk, I mean train people in the Sky way of marginal gains. I thought that was why they had Kerrison but he is not good in front of the camera.

Yes. They need some ROI.

Start flogging books on training in marginal gains.