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People who dominate are more likely to be dopers than people who don't. Surely everyone, even you, must agree to that.
 
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not surprising by some1 that still thinks armstrong is a clean legend. . . .

either way drop the insults or you will get a ban for that, i have warned you before via pm so consider this your last chance to learn some manners
 
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bobbins said:
Here's a checklist for dominating cycling;

Big money sponsor that the UCI will want to look after
Get in bed with a tame national federation, even better if it is one that people think is clean. This should make OOC testing a bit less of a headache
Get the UCI in your pocket, invite its president to your launch, really look after him, I mean really look after him
Buy the press - nice weeks away with the team in majorca and at selected races, loads of freebies should do this.
Get David Walshe on the sponsors payroll
Get a believable reason that the gullible public and your new fans can swallow. Marginal gains, riders lucky duvets, having a chef, choosing your own wheels.

USPS only missed one or two off. They could have had it all.

It's only March and I can't bare to watch the cycling on TV, very sad.
Yea, I'm not sure what I'm going to do when skiing season's over.
 
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British people would never dope, theyre just all at the peak human physiology which means that its impossible to beat them unless you dope.
 

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don't you all see that in the past everyone only cared about doping and because of that there is a big edge to be gained since pro cyclists compared to other pros don't know as much about training and what they are doing nor are they monitored as much by their teams as in other sports
 
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iZnoGouD said:
don't you all see that in the past everyone only cared about doping and because of that there is a big edge to be gained since pro cyclists compared to other pros don't know as much about training and what they are doing nor are they monitored as much by their teams as in other sports

So the new boys (sky)have arrived to teach the other, who are amateurs how to race with diet, warm downs and words of motivation on the bike frame?

I dont think so.

Sky are in bed with UCI.
 

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Parrulo said:
not surprising by some1 that still thinks armstrong is a clean legend. . . .

either way drop the insults or you will get a ban for that, i have warned you before via pm so consider this your last chance to learn some manners

Superiority complex...

I never said Armstrong was clean in fact i always believed he doped, making up stuff just to make a point is not good conduct
 
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Froome seemed very angry with Contador. Reminded me of Wiggins' bizarro behaviour after he won the Olympics Time Trial.

('roid rage? - :D )
 

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Benotti69 said:
So the new boys (sky)have arrived to teach the other, who are amateurs how to race with diet, warm downs and words of motivation on the bike frame?

I dont think so.

Sky are in bed with UCI.

I know how things work in RNT which is identical to almsost all teams i guess and from what i've seen from from interviews and documentaries from sky they are certainly on another level in the training
aspect.
 
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the sceptic said:
British people would never dope, theyre just all at the peak human physiology which means that its impossible to beat them unless you dope.

Exactamundo.
 

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iZnoGouD said:
I know how things work in RNT and from what i've seen from from interviews and documentaries from sky they are certainly on another level in the training
aspect.

Have you seen interviews and documentaries of other teams to compare?

Why are they on another level?
 
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55 secs??

I'm glad to see folks here appear to be thinking the same as me...

Lets see, if Contador took 55 secs off 2nd place in a TT, he'd have been taken away before he reached doping control!

I see someone referring to LA & doing it 7 times & rubbing noses in it... FFS do you think the authorities will look closely when UKPS take all 3 GT's, the classics & throw in a monument or 2.. And I'm going for Uran for the Vuelta!!!

If this team is still as strong in September - it's the death knell for cycling.. (The FINAL death knell)
 
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I wonder if, after a year or two at SKY, Rogers turned lazy again? Could he have stopped applying the harsh regimented, ueberprofessional SKY training program?

Riis can count his lucky stars if Big Rogers starts sharing some inside info with the saxotrain. Come July, they might have reverse engineered the "intensive training" and a dedicated supplier to match.
 

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thehog said:
Have you seen interviews and documentaries of other teams to compare?

Why are they on another level?

But they are on another level because they do interviews & documentaries - that IS the other level.
 
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W is very quiet right now. Maybe he is learning a lesson from la not taking all the glory in case in the future some of your ungrateful teammates sold you out. Lol everyone win something,so we are in this together.
 
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Armstrong takes another hit. He was hoping to hold on to the title for most sophisticated doping program in sport but it looks like there is new title holder that makes him look like a piker.
 
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brodeal said:
armstrong takes another hit. He was hoping to hold on to the title for most sophisticated doping program in sport but it looks like there is new title holder that makes him look like a piker.

lmaf:d:d:d
 
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Armstrong takes another hit. He was hoping to hold on to the title for most sophisticated doping program in sport but it looks like there is new title holder that makes him look like a piker.

Hold you horses. LA AND USPS was worse, far worse than SKY. Lets see how 2013 develop before making such claims. That is an prestigious title and LA won't let it go easy. ;)
 
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Walkman said:
Hold you horses. LA AND USPS was worse, far worse than SKY. Lets see how 2013 develop before making such claims. That is an prestigious title and LA won't let it go easy. ;)

How were they worse? Sky currently have the 3 best GT riders in the world and just dominated two stage races at the same time, us postal style. And its only march. If they start dominating the classics too the farce will be complete.
 

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I can understand Benotti69, sniper, hrotha and other guys, who apparently are strongly against doping first of all and only then can support some riders (probably, sorry, I don't know for sure). But I see there many forumities who are simply insulted by the fact that Sky boys DARED to beat their favorites. And Sky train is only an explanation to justify this discontent. Grievance is a key word for me here. It is very odd.

But my question is directed on everyone: is it possible to be much stronger than all the rest technically and physically without doping??? I don't consider Sky much stronger than rest of the field, but still... They just have the best domestiques and very likely best captains or best performers, if you like.

What do you think?
 
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airstream said:
I can understand Benotti69, sniper, hrotha and other guys, who apparently are strongly against doping first of all and only then can support some riders (probably, sorry, I don't know for sure). But I see there many forumities who are simply insulted by the fact that Sky boys DARED to beat their favorites. And Sky train is only an explanation to justify this discontent. Grievance is a key word for me here. It is very odd.

But my question is directed on everyone: is it possible to be much stronger than all the rest technically and physically without doping??? I don't consider Sky much stronger than rest of the field, but still... They just have the best domestiques and very likely best captains or best performers, if you like.

What do you think?

I think you are once again surfing the edge of trolling and baiting. And the wave is about to give up on you pretty soon.
 

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ferryman said:
I think you are once again surfing the edge of trolling and baiting. And the wave is about to give up on you pretty soon.

LOL WHAT??? You will ban me for this uttely democratically formulated post? :)
 
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But my question is directed on everyone: is it possible to be much stronger than all the rest technically and physically without doping??? I don't consider Sky much stronger than rest of the field, but still... They just have the best domestiques and very likely best captains or best performers, if you like.

What do you think?

So sky arent much stronger, they just have the best domestiques and captains. Interesting theory