Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Wallace and Gromit]

Right. Clearly a multiple GT winner in the making.

I don't think anyone's concluding that from that stage!

You questioned if Wiggo had done a breakaway other than in the Tour de L'Avenir. I highlighted another breakaway - nothing more than that.

I can't comment on the inner meanings - if any - of anything that Benson wrote.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Sorry I meant latter as in you third 'option':

He was caught. Sorry for the confusion

It's all good.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

To be frank, this piece reminds me of an LA-like puff-piece.

To be fair, though, anything written about Wiggins that doesn't accuse him of doping appears to remind you of an LA-like puff-piece, so Benson's piece is not particularly unusual.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

To be fair, though, anything written about Wiggins that doesn't accuse him of doping appears to remind you of an LA-like puff-piece, so Benson's piece is not particularly unusual.

You're being idiotic. If I had have said this every time a piece was written, then your statement would hold water. Instead, it acts like a sieve.

This is the first time I have ever said it.

I've already highlighted the joke that was Wiggins TT and breakaway focus - mentioned by Benson for who knows what reason. Clearly hasn't been listening to the fanbois who go on endlessly that Wiggins was concentrating on the track.

Now look at how Benson recalls Wiggins' outburst at the Tour:

That negatively boiled over at last year’s Tour when Wiggins showed his sensitivity and frustration

Wiggins is sensitive and frustrated. Right. That's all it was.

And what really gets my goat here is the utter BS of saying Wiggins is doing the Giro and not the Tour coz he's already done the Tour. When on the track he was pretty much a 1 trick pony and didn't mind defending his pursuit crown ad nauseum. Puhlease. It's a lame excuse.

The questions were soft. That's why it's a puff piece. We've already got a thread discussing CN is only there to sell ad space, so it's no surprise it's soft.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Given the regard CN holds for JV, I am surprised they kick Hesjedal to the curb as hard as they do. It borders on revolting.

 

[SundayRider]

"I like that all the pre-race talk has been about the racing. There hasn't been one question about doping yet. At the Tour de France you have this continual questioning about doping. When you race in Italy it's about the love of the racing and the sport. You don't seem to have that element of the media that is just there for negative stories," he said.

This sounds just like Armstrong. Anyone who talks about doping is negative. Remember when BW used to think talking about doping was a good positive thing?

 

[xcleigh]

I imagine he's happy to concentrate on racing without the pressure of the goldfish bowl that is the TDF and all the doping questions, and why shouldn't he be. Imagine being asked in your job every single day the same question (asked numerous different ways but all of the same subject matter), over and over for 3 weeks. And no amount of answers and explanations satisfies the questioners so they continue to ask the same questions every day and every answer is analysed and dissected in public. All the while under pressure to get your job done successfully. That would possibly make me lose my rag a wee bit too. But hey 'it's part of the job' and 'a legacy of the sport's past' I hear you cry Fair enough, but I think I'd I'd still lose my rag.

I can't remember when BW used to think talking about doping was a good thing but your memory may serve you better. Just can't recall him being that specific about the need or the desire to be talking about doping.

 

[thehog]

I imagine he's happy to concentrate on racing without the pressure of the goldfish bowl that is the TDF and all the doping questions, and why shouldn't he be. Imagine being asked in your job every single day the same question (asked numerous different ways but all of the same subject matter), over and over for 3 weeks. And no amount of answers and explanations satisfies the questioners so they continue to ask the same questions every day and every answer is analysed and dissected in public. All the while under pressure to get your job done successfully. That would possibly make me lose my rag a wee bit too. But hey 'it's part of the job' and 'a legacy of the sport's past' I hear you cry Fair enough, but I think I'd I'd still lose my rag.

I can't remember when BW used to think talking about doping was a good thing but your memory may serve you better. Just can't recall him being that specific about the need or the desire to be talking about doping.

Maybe he's avoiding the Dawg show?

I think it's a good move.

Never in all my days did I think Wiggo could win a GT let alone one like the Giro.

Cycling is a funny sport.

Even Skybots thought he'd never win a GT again and he was lucky.

When he retires he road career will be stellar. Amazing in fact. He's won a lot of races.

Like I said. Funny sport.

 

[leon7766]

Maybe he's avoiding the Dawg show?

I think it's a good move.

Never in all my days did I think Wiggo could win a GT let alone one like the Giro.

Cycling is a funny sport.

Even Skybots thought he'd never win a GT again and he was lucky.

When he retires he road career will be stellar. Amazing in fact. He's won a lot of races.

Like I said. Funny sport.

He will be able to to retire and say I acheived all my dreams. I didnt sit in front of a computer talking rubbish about other people I got up early ,worked hard sacrificed and got what I worked for .I also did it the British way clean!
Well done Bradders

 

[thehog]

He will be able to to retire and say I acheived all my dreams. I didnt sit in front of a computer talking rubbish about other people I got up early ,worked hard sacrificed and got what I worked for .I also did it the British way clean!
Well done Bradders

When I retire. I will say that I posted over 47,000 times in the Clinic.

Probably in line with Sir Brad.

 

[Benotti69]

"I like that all the pre-race talk has been about the racing. There hasn't been one question about doping yet. At the Tour de France you have this continual questioning about doping. When you race in Italy it's about the love of the racing and the sport. You don't seem to have that element of the media that is just there for negative stories," he said.

This sounds just like Armstrong. Anyone who talks about doping is negative. Remember when BW used to think talking about doping was a good positive thing?

David Walsh told a great story about most of the so called 'journalists' who cover the TdF. They all love the TdF and when asked if they had to write a story (doping) that might end the TdF or whether to ignore that story most said they would protect the TdF.

Wiggins got a few justifiable questions about doping, remember he finished over 3 hours down on the winner in 2006 and now he is winning it and he is whinging. Shows the current mentality of Wiggins and his attitude change to doping.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

If I had have said this every time a piece was written, then your statement would hold water. Instead, it acts like a sieve.

This is the first time I have ever said it.

Happy to admit that you've never said it before, but at the same time, I'm struggling to think of any non-negative comments you've made about pro-
Wiggo/Sky articles. Hence my conclusion that you don't give such articles any credit.

 

[thehog]

David Walsh told a great story about most of the so called 'journalists' who cover the TdF. They all love the TdF and when asked if they had to write a story (doping) that might end the TdF or whether to ignore that story most said they would protect the TdF.

Wiggins got a few justifiable questions about doping, remember he finished over 3 hours down on the winner in 2006 and now he is winning it and he is whinging. Shows the current mentality of Wiggins and his attitude change to doping.

It's a little like 1999.

Leblanc walked into the press box and told everyone that'd be out of jobs if they questioned Armstrong. Let it roll and let the Tour rebuild.

I believe we're back there again.

Don't worry.

I don't think the Dawg will endear journalists.

They will see him for the total fraud he is. Utter utter fraud.

 

[Ripper]

He will be able to to retire and say I acheived all my dreams. I didnt sit in front of a computer talking rubbish about other people I got up early ,worked hard sacrificed and got what I worked for .I also did it the British way clean!
Well done Bradders

Are you self referencing?

Oh, BTW, he does talk rubbish about other people

 

[leon7766]

David Walsh told a great story about most of the so called 'journalists' who cover the TdF. They all love the TdF and when asked if they had to write a story (doping) that might end the TdF or whether to ignore that story most said they would protect the TdF.

Wiggins got a few justifiable questions about doping, remember he finished over 3 hours down on the winner in 2006 and now he is winning it and he is whinging. Shows the current mentality of Wiggins and his attitude change to doping.

Yes he was team leader on both occasions so the comparison is more than just

 

[leon7766]

Are you self referencing?

Oh, BTW, he does talk rubbish about other people

Obviously Im talking about myself .I wished I could acheive something on a par with Bradders .I fully understand by sitting here typing Im a sad twit others dont seem to

Wiggins doesnt hide behind a screen when he says things

 

[Ripper]

Obviously Im talking about myself .I wished I could acheive something on a par with Bradders .I fully understand by sitting here typing Im a sad twit others dont seem to

Wiggins doesnt hide behind a screen when he says things

How can you know? Just 'cause he also mouths off in public?

I say lots of stuff in the public world. Online bike forums? Why bother

 

[taiwan]

Yes he was team leader on both occasions so the comparison is more than just

Why wasn't he team leader in 06? Silly DS. If they made him leader of Garmin in 09 he might have top 5... oh wait.

 

[Ripper]

How can you know? Just 'cause he also mouths off in public?

I say lots of stuff in the public world. Online bike forums? Why bother

And to remind you, he does talk rubbish of others. He is not mr calm and noble.

What I find more interesting is that his outbursts tend to get explained away by fanboys.

He wins bike races. This does not make him a great guy.

 

[leon7766]

When I retire. I will say that I posted over 47,000 times in the Clinic.
QUOTE]

I sat here for ages thinking of something funny to say .The best I had was something along the lines of doped posting .Sorry I have had Flu for a couple of weeks

 

[leon7766]

How can you know? Just 'cause he also mouths off in public?

I say lots of stuff in the public world. Online bike forums? Why bother

I havent got any friends that why I post online

 

[leon7766]

And to remind you, he does talk rubbish of others. He is not mr calm and noble.

What I find more interesting is that his outbursts tend to get explained away by fanboys.

He wins bike races. This does not make him a great guy.

You like him or you dont if your not British you tend not to understand his humour .Not all British do either

 

[leon7766]

Why wasn't he team leader in 06? Silly DS. If they made him leader of Garmin in 09 he might have top 5... oh wait.

Sorry I just dont beleive what you are saying

 

[thehog]

When I retire. I will say that I posted over 47,000 times in the Clinic.
QUOTE]

I sat here for ages thinking of something funny to say .The best I had was something along the lines of doped posting .Sorry I have had Flu for a couple of weeks

Leon. When the Dawg takes the Tour you'll feel better.

I'm hoping he can win 19 stages.

Cycling is on a good place right now.

First Kenyan winner of the Tour! The Dawg!

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

He wins bike races. This does not make him a great guy.

Lady Wiggins is quite open in saying that Bradley Wiggins the cyclist is a tw*t, and Sir Bradley has equally openly agreed with her on this.

Apparently Bradley Wiggins the father and husband is a good guy.

I'm guessing that the people who post on here that I think are t*ssers are OK in real life!