Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[AcademyCC]

Their is marginal gaings now? Holy ***! I hope they don't rob my house.

They'll be in and out in 6.3w/kg

Just to state fact, on a different note. USPS had some pretty hard facts against them at this point already. SKY don't. What the Froomedog is doing doesnt look normal but no evidence against him so far.

 

[Ripper]

Did you write this yourself or is there an English-to-Borat translator somewhere?

Congrats! Post of the day!

 

[Galic Ho]

I help you with the English - you are Skyintist.

Good call Dr. Very very funny!

 

[Galic Ho]

yes, he was a second tier.

Well, you are right, he was not consider one favourite, but I was in a forum where some prestigious members said he was one of the possible winners, and...that day he was climbing at the level of Rassmusen, demostrated later best climber of that Tour, Rogers was best time trialist than Rasmusen, so, take your own conclusions.

I am sure he would be at least in the fight with that joung Contador, Evans, an Levi.

If Rogers wasnt doped that time, he is one of the strongers riders of the bunch.. and he is not, nor now nor with SKY ( I think in the Tour there were about 15 riders stronger than him, despite the crash, the absences, etc...), so I think he doped, but anyway, I dont know.

Looks like Zam's glue sniffing comment is accurate.

WTF have you been smoking? All night Siesta, booze galore and lines of crack for you last night?

I mean seriously man, we all know your game but this is now beyond a joke. Rogers GT material in 2007!!! WTF??

First you say you think he doped, then mask it by stating 'I don't know.' Quit the trolling routine. We know your grasp of English is stronger than this.

Everyone in 2007 knew who the favourites were. Rasmussen was ALWAYS going to be a potential winner. Exclude his crap 2005 chrono, where he fell 3 or 4 times and made numerous bike swaps, he'd have made the podium. Always had it. Same with Vino. Evans was a logical favourite. Sastre too, but he left the extra blood bad till the next year. Contador was the only true unknown and that wasn't his fault because in 2006 his team didn't get invited to the Tour and in 2005 he was a domestique. Leipheimer is the funny one. Couldn't top 10 first chrono, wins by a massive margin in the last one. Final week, he had the most doping gains.

Rogers historically was never consistent. He was only in a break to attempt to get yellow. Post 2006 T-Mobile were dust regarding GC. Hence why Rogers was their man. Wake the hell up and stop with the BS. PLEASE! Rogers was even stronger last year than he EVER was at Quickstep, T-Mobile and HTC, all great beacons of clean cycling! Then again LS replied to you and owned your rear end. Stop wasting people's time with incessant ramblings and utter troll infested bile.

 

[Benotti69]

Their is marginal gaings now? Holy ***! I hope they don't rob my house.

They'll be in and out in 6.3w/kg

Just to state fact, on a different note. USPS had some pretty hard facts against them at this point already. SKY don't. What the Froomedog is doing doesnt look normal but no evidence against him so far.

What hard facts were there about USPS going for the second TdF win?

It wasn't till 2001 that the info about Ferarri got out iirc.

We at this comparative stage know that Sky used a doping doctor. So SkyPostal are leaking quicker than USPS, only a decade or so to go till the bans are handed down.

 

[Eshnar]

Looks like Zam's glue sniffing comment is accurate.

WTF have you been smoking? All night Siesta, booze galore and lines of crack for you last night?

remember guys... "moderation".

 

[Galic Ho]

remember guys... "moderation".

Sorry. I should have put a joke emoticon. I was joking.

Was just confused at the literal contradictions taxus4a wrote in two consecutive sentences.

There are Spanish forums out there right? Ones more catered to Spaniards, if taxus4a is indeed a Spaniard? Hrotha has no English issue...oh snap. Translator from memory.

Arrggghhhh...Sky. Yeah, Saxo were about equal with them today. Maybe with one extra rider they'd have been faster. A team of climbers almost beats a team packed with the 4k mens pursuit Gold medallists from last years Olympics.

Sky, you've been marked and put on notice.

 

[Mr.38%]

Watching Brailsford on Eurosport yesterday, explaining the most obvious facts about the requirements of a TTT like he just discovered America was hilarious.

 

[fruit bars with eyes]

Watching Brailsford on Eurosport yesterday, explaining the most obvious facts about the requirements of a TTT like he just discovered America was hilarious.

yeh he annoys me immensely with his 'discoveries' - the problem is 80% of the UK cycling public is very new to the sport (the early adopters proudly wear HTC gear circa 2009) and used to total dominance in sprinting, TT and track (and now GC) so they lap the baldy Yoda up and nod sagely whilst assuming that the french never recce a course, the spanish never give a thought to wind resistance, the italians like to start off far too fast and then blow bubbles etc etc

 

[Captain Serious]

please excuse my 'iggorance', but why didn't the Sky Super Team obliterate everyone in TTT? Is their team loaded with climbers? Or did they hold back to avoid suspicion?

 

[Netserk]

They didn't want the yellow already.

 

[maltiv]

They didn't want the yellow already.

Also, none of their guys seems to be in form (yet). Lopez, Kiry, Sivtsov etc haven't even been able to keep up with the peloton on any stage involving a climb.

 

[The Hitch]

If the sky myths about science and marginal gains were true, youd expect them to win that ttt as well.

Afterall, absolutely nowhere does "science", matter as much as in the ttt.

All those cutting edge training techniques no one has. Leaving no stone unturned. Scientifically analyzing everything. all that specific training. Making sure everyone has the right position on the tt bike, by putting them in wind tunnels.


Those super aerodynamic skinsuits, bikes and helmets sky spend half their budget on, that "every other team will later try and copy". Those leg warmers which increase your power 700% if you wear them before the effort. That magic thing they invented called warming up, and also warming down the day before.

That super duper team spirit they get by actually doing training camps together rather than letting the riders do their own thing like all other teams do. That bond they form by being friends unlike all other teams where everyone hates eachother. Especially important in a ttt where team spirit is most important.

AND, they have Kerrison who can probably think of a million ways to halve ttt times that no one else can think of cos he is such a sports genius.


If Sky have all those advantages in the ttt and still cant win, then one wonders how much they will struggle in the mountains where all those things matter very little.

 

[Escarabajo]

If the sky myths about science and marginal gains were true, youd expect them to win that ttt as well.

Afterall, absolutely nowhere does "science", matter as much as in the ttt.

All those cutting edge training techniques no one has. Leaving no stone unturned. Scientifically analyzing everything. all that specific training. Making sure everyone has the right position on the tt bike, by putting them in wind tunnels.


Those super aerodynamic skinsuits, bikes and helmets sky spend half their budget on, that "every other team will later try and copy". Those leg warmers which increase your power 700% if you wear them before the effort. That magic thing they invented called warming up, and also warming down the day before.

That super duper team spirit they get by actually doing training camps together rather than letting the riders do their own thing like all other teams do. That bond they form by being friends unlike all other teams where everyone hates eachother. Especially important in a ttt where team spirit is most important.

AND, they have Kerrison who can probably think of a million ways to halve ttt times that no one else can think of cos he is such a sports genius.


If Sky have all those advantages in the ttt and still cant win, then one wonders how much they will struggle in the mountains where all those things matter very little.

To be fair with them they were a little hurt from the crashes. Not much science about that.

 

[Donkey]

I help you with the English - you are Skyintist.

Did you write this yourself or is there an English-to-Borat translator somewhere?

shouldnt that be "exist doesnt miracles"

no matter what exaxctly Taxus says you are all a bit stupid laughing at his english skills. I wish this forum was more generous.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Anyone remember that thread in 2011 (i think) where the op was not comprehensible..it goes something like... drugs should leuse not tour

 

[The Hitch]

Anyone remember that thread in 2011 (i think) where the op was not comprehensible..it goes something like... drugs should leuse not tour

Dont remember that particular thread, but CN forum legend Denkoff (responsible for this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD-F_vcTZgM )
did once create a thread called "Alberto Contador, doped or clear"together with many other great contributions.

 

[ElChingon]

Anyone remember that thread in 2011 (i think) where the op was not comprehensible..it goes something like... drugs should leuse not tour

When has it stopped?

 

[Granville57]

Anyone remember that thread in 2011 (i think) where the op was not comprehensible..it goes something like... drugs should leuse not tour

Who loves ya' Zam?

how can a drus suea go to la tour
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=14028

simo2001
A one-hit wonder.

 

[BroDeal]

no matter what exaxctly Taxus says you are all a bit stupid laughing at his english skills. I wish this forum was more generous.

You are assuming his Borat-like English skills are not an act despite his curious posting times.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Who loves ya' Zam?

how can a drus suea go to la tour
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=14028

simo2001
A one-hit wonder.

Mucho Gracias, Kind Sir.

 

[Taxus4a]

If the sky myths about science and marginal gains were true, youd expect them to win that ttt as well.
.

And they almost did with Thomas hurt and Stannard not very well.

 

[Froome19]

If the sky myths about science and marginal gains were true, youd expect them to win that ttt as well.

Afterall, absolutely nowhere does "science", matter as much as in the ttt.

All those cutting edge training techniques no one has. Leaving no stone unturned. Scientifically analyzing everything. all that specific training. Making sure everyone has the right position on the tt bike, by putting them in wind tunnels.


Those super aerodynamic skinsuits, bikes and helmets sky spend half their budget on, that "every other team will later try and copy". Those leg warmers which increase your power 700% if you wear them before the effort. That magic thing they invented called warming up, and also warming down the day before.

That super duper team spirit they get by actually doing training camps together rather than letting the riders do their own thing like all other teams do. That bond they form by being friends unlike all other teams where everyone hates eachother. Especially important in a ttt where team spirit is most important.

AND, they have Kerrison who can probably think of a million ways to halve ttt times that no one else can think of cos he is such a sports genius.


If Sky have all those advantages in the ttt and still cant win, then one wonders how much they will struggle in the mountains where all those things matter very little.

You also need the personnel and the luck on the day.
Maybe on another day they would have, 3 seconds can easily be reversed but Stage 4 wasn't for them unfortunately especially due to injuries which also factored in.

 

[Ripper]

You are assuming his Borat-like English skills are not an act despite his curious posting times.

West of Spain As in ... west coast, NA

 

[Ripper]

please excuse my 'iggorance', but why didn't the Sky Super Team obliterate everyone in TTT? Is their team loaded with climbers? Or did they hold back to avoid suspicion?

Well two of their key TTT guys had some small level of misfortune before the TTT

There are also some mountain doms on the team. So when you think about it, they did pretty darn good given most of the TT effort was 3 or 4 guys. Perhaps it was 80% Froome and Porte!