Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[MartinGT]

breaking news...........or have you just made it up?

You dont get it do you? You just dont get it.

 

[ebandit]

ha ha

You dont get it do you? You just dont get it.

and the sky thread descends into a pointless morass of smug self satisfaction

am i too naive to expect outlandish claims to be backed up?

 

[MartinGT]

and the sky thread descends into a pointless morass of smug self satisfaction

am i too naive to expect outlandish claims to be backed up?

Outlandish? I dont think they are outlandish given his previous results and how he was in awe of Lance and even said they were like US Postal.

How is that outlandish?

 

[Stingray34]

breaking news...........or have you just made it up?

So you've heard it before or is it new to you? Must suck to have your boy disparaged thus.

 

[Stingray34]

If only the mod boy wonder could've doped...er...won a few years earlier, he could've had a few good years. But Lance-gate had to happen and now, whoops, the McCartney foods fiasco.

 

[ebandit]

my boy?

So you've heard it before or is it new to you? Must suck to have your boy disparaged thus.

the last person i hoped to see win the 2012 tdf was brad.........but from

a sporting perspective......................B O R I N G !

again for now............there is NO proof ..............so obviously i

enquired about your false claim.........trolling post

 

[Mellow Velo]

Outlandish? I dont think they are outlandish given his previous results and how he was in awe of Lance and even said they were like US Postal.

How is that outlandish?

I don't find the claim outlandish, just unsubstantiated by anything resembling substance...............as yet.

On your earlier post. Yates's reputation, currently in the toilet, will sink further and a percentage of the "non technical" gp will have their view of Sky tainted, as a result.
A lot will simply buy it as a different era kind of thing.

 

[Stingray34]

the last person i hoped to see win the 2012 tdf was brad.........but from

a sporting perspective......................B O R I N G !

again for now............there is NO proof ..............so obviously i

enquired about your false claim.........trolling post

the last person?...sounds a lot like 'I'm not a fan of lance, BUT....'

Who did you want to win?

Trolling post, I prefer clear and distinct vision. If it squawks like a modish prat doper - guess what - it effing well is.

 

[Stingray34]

The USA is back to one Tour winner; how long before the UK is back to zero?

 

[MartinGT]

I don't find the claim outlandish, just unsubstantiated by anything resembling substance...............as yet.

On your earlier post. Yates's reputation, currently in the toilet, will sink further and a percentage of the "non technical" gp will have their view of Sky tainted, as a result.
A lot will simply buy it as a different era kind of thing.

Thats the thing, people I speak to who dont follow cycling do point to the past and say "Oh well, it happened when Lance was racing wasnt it?"

 

[ebandit]

trolling

Who did you want to win?

Trolling post, I prefer clear and distinct vision. If it squawks like a modish prat doper - guess what - it effing well is.

i have nothing to prove to you.......this is the sky thread

yes! your trolling post..........that tosh about weller / gallagher hardly

clear and distinct vision

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Everybody chill here, don't get so emotionally involved.

And if you insist on insulting one another or otherwise being nasty, you will be given a suspension.

Susan

 

[RownhamHill]

Which makes the "I am so surprised to hear he/she was doping then" argument such a joke. Particularly coming after so much heaped praise. Ie. Wiggins re Armstrong. But can be said about many of the incestuous, indeed.

H'mmm. So let's hear that 'I am so surprised to hear he was doping' argument from Wiggins on Armstrong:

"It wasn't a surprise," Wiggins says of the report that damned the Texan. (source)

Sorry, what was that Bradley, not sure I understood you?

Wiggins said: "You realise as you grow up that Father Christmas doesn't exist. That was always the case with Lance." (source)

What a joke hey, professing such surprise. Wait, what's that Brad, you're still jabbering on about something. . .

Wiggins said the evidence against Armstrong, who is still regarded as a sporting icon by some, was "irrefutable".

. . .

"It is certainly not a one-sided hatchet job, it is pretty damning. I am shocked at the scale of the evidence.

"I have been involved in pro cycling for a long time and I realise what it takes to train and win the Tour de France.

"I'm not surprised by it. I had a good idea what is going on." (source)

 

[Spencer the Half Wit]

Noel doesn't drive.

He's also lived in London for the last 15 years.

 

[Stingray34]

OK, so Noel Gallagher doesn't drive and has lived in London for 15 years; while we're being autistically literal here, how about this: Brad Wiggins, Prince of Tenerife, is a NAS-TEY doper and Brailsford is his Dumbledore.

And Froome is the most ungainly, crab-like, knee-out figure on a bike I've ever witnessed: he ain't no Sammy Moreels.

 

[Avoriaz]

OK, so Noel Gallagher doesn't drive and has lived in London for 15 years; while we're being autistically literal here, how about this: Brad Wiggins, Prince of Tenerife, is a NAS-TEY doper and Brailsford is his Dumbledore.

And Froome is the most ungainly, crab-like, knee-out figure on a bike I've ever witnessed: he ain't no Sammy Moreels.

somebody's tired

 

[ebandit]

again

Wiggins idolators, the boy's a massive doper. .

Meanwhile Noel effing Gallagher and Paul Weller sing the boy's praises, calling him 'the man.' HA! as if these two b'stards don't hate every cyclist they see and wish they could run off the road in their BMW 4WDs in Manchester and Surrey, respectively.

Wake up and smell the pale ale...

Carry on tub-thumpin...

untruth / trolling rubbish irrelavent to this thread

 

[Stingray34]

Rule Skytania

Skytania rules the world

 

[Stingray34]

Your mod boy wonder was going to quit the Tour in yellow bec his teammate accelerated in the Alps.

What would he do if he had a job at Tescos and his fat, slack-jawed boss shouted at him? Rev his Lambretta in the carpark really loud, like...

Oi...did you spill my pint?

 

[thehog]

Fair point (if aimed at me!)

Ignoring Hog is not a good move, as much of his output is very valuable.

I never complain to moderators, as I prefer "self-censorship". Unless Hog has a skin the thickness of a rhino's (if I can mix metaphores) then he'll know that certain aspects of his posting style are not well appreciated. He can modify his behaviour or not, and we'll make our own judgements based on his actions. The downside of free speech is that people will sometimes say things you don't like, but so long as laws aren't broken, you just have to "suck it up" (or leave the forum!)

Many appear to say there’s no story. But dropping Yates, Rogers and Tenerife is a story. A big story. There had to be big enough concern with the triage of doping association for them to be dropped. Yates just won the Tour with Wiggins for crying out loud. He and Tenerife as preparation was a big part of that victory. I think Brailsford after the USPS fallout saw the writing on the wall. Things can’t be done this way anymore. I would have preferred more openness about why they removed Yates etc. but they’re not going to blow the whole thing up are they?

I also would have thought Wiggins would have said more about Yates leaving and the adoption of new training grounds. But I get the feeling that everything he says is tightly controlled.

I hold my breath for 2013 to see what comes.

But I still smell a rat. If Tenerife was such a big part of 2012 then why not keep it? If the results were “amazing” why not continue to use it as a training base?

 

[Stingray34]

If you gave me a yellow jersey/I would crush it like a tender petal/from me there'd be no escape/and at the same time Mick Rogers pace was just too high...

Even Eddy Boasson can burn your climbers/look no further than Michele Ferrari/...

rah, rah...stick the tall skinny git in a canoe and have him break wind for Cambridge.

 

[JimmyFingers]

OK, so Noel Gallagher doesn't drive and has lived in London for 15 years; while we're being autistically literal here, how about this: Brad Wiggins, Prince of Tenerife, is a NAS-TEY doper and Brailsford is his Dumbledore.

And Froome is the most ungainly, crab-like, knee-out figure on a bike I've ever witnessed: he ain't no Sammy Moreels.

How is any of that literal? Too early for the mulled wine surely.

And how someone looks on a bike has nothing to do with whether they dope or not. Just a rather unpleasant personal jibe

 

[JimmyFingers]

blah blah blah

My bad for bothering to respond

 

[maltiv]

Even Eddy Boasson can burn your climbers/look no further than Michele Ferrari/...

Yes, even the guy who, at 18, was predicted to be the "next Eddy Merckx" and touted as the "greatest talent of the century" after being tested by HTC, can ride at the front of the peloton on the lower slopes of a mountain for a couple of minutes. Unbelievable

 

[Stingray34]

Yes, even the guy who, at 18, was predicted to be the "next Eddy Merckx" and touted as the "greatest talent of the century" after being tested by HTC, can ride at the front of the peloton on the lower slopes of a mountain for a couple of minutes. Unbelievable

Yet he aint British, so no chance of getting any results for himself anymore. Let's have the next Eddy Merckyx ride tempo for mod boy wonder and the crab.