Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[mastersracer]

oh, ebandit, you meant the Hog, yes, there's lies in most of his post (thought you were referring to Joachim)...

 

[thehog]

where's the lie? Name the post.

You said smoking was safe and yesterday you went on one where you’ll telling us Thomas Dekker doped alone! LOL!

I’m going to dig out your posts about smoking. I still chuckle to myself about them.

I think at the time you started to give me the “there are several peer review studies that smoking is safe”. Haha! It was a classic.

Thanks for the entertainment. Please keep posting. As I do have a good laugh! Everyone else is so serious.

 

[Darryl Webster]

26 year old rider with a thin palmares on the road, but with a track background breaks away from a strong peloton on a punchy climb, maintains the breakaway before sprinting away strongly from his fellow escapees from a long way out, riding for Sky.

Surprised G hasn't got it big from this place. Maybe because (on the basis of his win) he rides with some panache and nous and he hasn't called anyone a w*nker yet

It is only January!...I very much doubt there are many riders really firing on all four cylinders as yet.

 

[mastersracer]

You said smoking was safe and yesterday you went on one where you’ll telling us Thomas Dekker doped alone! LOL!

I’m going to dig out your posts about smoking. I still chuckle to myself about them.

I think at the time you started to give me the “there are several peer review studies that smoking is safe”. Haha! It was a classic.

Thanks for the entertainment. Please keep posting. As I do have a good laugh! Everyone else is so serious.

Intentionally distorting what people say wastes everyone's time. I didn't say Dekker doped alone. I said he wasn't forced. Actually, Dekker said he wasn't forced. He reiterated that in the interview you just quoted. Helped does not mean forced...

“All of that, including the names of people who helped me will be given to the Anti-Doping Authority.”

 

[badboygolf16v]

the thought of SKY ever being involved in suspicious activities would kill pro cycling forever .

Don't be silly.

 

[JimmyFingers]

It is only January!...I very much doubt there are many riders really firing on all four cylinders as yet.

True but he looked good, and very strong. We'll see what the reaction is if he wins overall and how he performs in the spring.

 

[will10]

26 year old rider with a thin palmares on the road, but with a track background breaks away from a strong peloton on a punchy climb, maintains the breakaway before sprinting away strongly from his fellow escapees from a long way out, riding for Sky.

Surprised G hasn't got it big from this place. Maybe because (on the basis of his win) he rides with some panache and nous and he hasn't called anyone a w*nker yet

Did you see him outclimb Hermans? What a doper!

 

[pmcg76]

oh, ebandit, you meant the Hog, yes, there's lies in most of his post (thought you were referring to Joachim)...

Them both would be a better summary

 

[Grandillusion]

Don't be silly.

That's not silly at all - if a newly knighted, widely admired 'Sports Personality of The Year' Wiggins was found to be a doper, hot on the heels of the Armstrong revelations, that'd be a veritable death knell IMO.

 

[thehog]

Intentionally distorting what people say wastes everyone's time. I didn't say Dekker doped alone. I said he wasn't forced. Actually, Dekker said he wasn't forced. He reiterated that in the interview you just quoted. Helped does not mean forced...

“All of that, including the names of people who helped me will be given to the Anti-Doping Authority.”

Let me pass you a shovel to help you with the hole you’re digging for yourself.

You might want to help Dr. Leinders also inject young cyclists with EPO. Then you can blame the cyclist and not the Doctor.

Doctor is innocent and clean. Young cyclist of 21 years old should just do as his told.

 

[mastersracer]

Let me pass you a shovel to help you with the hole you’re digging for yourself.

You might want to help Dr. Leinders also inject young cyclists with EPO. Then you can blame the cyclist and not the Doctor.

Doctor is innocent and clean. Young cyclist of 21 years old should just do as his told.

name the post I said Dekker doped alone.

 

[The Hitch]

26 year old rider with a thin palmares on the road, but with a track background breaks away from a strong peloton on a punchy climb, maintains the breakaway before sprinting away strongly from his fellow escapees from a long way out, riding for Sky.

Surprised G hasn't got it big from this place. Maybe because (on the basis of his win) he rides with some panache and nous and he hasn't called anyone a w*nker yet

And because he won a stage of the tour down under, a race in which stage wins from riders of gs ability are not uncommon. He has not yet become a contender for the tour de France. Not close.

But it is worth keeping an eye on him considering how vocally upset he was on hearing that udada was investigating lance.

 

[The Hitch]

That's not silly at all - if a newly knighted, widely admired 'Sports Personality of The Year' Wiggins was found to be a doper, hot on the heels of the Armstrong revelations, that'd be a veritable death knell IMO.

Kill the sport in 1 country maybe. No way in hell is wiggins gonna kill the sport for the world though. Why would a 1 time gt winner be bigger than lance contador or even pantani and ullrich for that matter?

 

[Joachim]

Them both would be a better summary

That's helpful. Care to find one of my lies?

Thought not.

 

[shades1]

Don't be silly.

the sport has probably lost millions already in sponsorship due to the golden boy admitting what he done , if this mob ever get under suspicion and proved of wrong doings it will kill the sport for good . if the sponsorship money dries up thats it , the party is over !!

SKY portray themselves as the cleanest team on the planet and i hope they are , but if the day ever comes where its found its all an act , then its bye bye cycling forever cos what sponsors in there right mind want to be connected with a sport that is so drug fuelled .

im a true fan of cycling and i pray it never happens but i just have trouble believing anything is 100% true in this sport anymore .

 

[thehog]

name the post I said Dekker doped alone.

Why the anger?

Take out your frustrations on Dave Brailsford.

He’s the one who hires a Doctor who has a penchant for injecting young men with EPO.

Not me.

Sorry.

 

[WinterRider]

where?


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Go read his wikipedia page if you don't know his palmares. But he has won sprints over strong fields. To then turn around and lead the peloton up mountains in the TdF is not normal.

 

[Grandillusion]

Hitch:

Just my feeling - it'd be amplified & resonate much more because of the magnitude of the Armstrong affair worldwide, and Sky's clean stance would be ridiculed. It'd be massive

 

[Joachim]

I don't think so. I think it would be nicely in keeping with pro cycling grand tours. More TdF wins have been subsequently stripped over the last decade than have been kept.

 

[pmcg76]

That's helpful. Care to find one of my lies?

Thought not.

I never said anything about lies, did I!!

 

[del1962]

Kill the sport in 1 country maybe. No way in hell is wiggins gonna kill the sport for the world though. Why would a 1 time gt winner be bigger than lance contador or even pantani and ullrich for that matter?

Because this is the clinic, where things become magnified and ppl see things in extremes, where every broken wind could cause a hurricane.

 

[Grandillusion]

I don't think so. I think it would be nicely in keeping with pro cycling grand tours. More TdF wins have been subsequently stripped over the last decade than have been kept.

But the general public don't and haven't cared about any of them particularly have they?

Things have changed - Armstrong's "success" changed everything, and his downfall is even bigger than that.

Just my feeling that's all - it'd take years & years for the sport to recover .

 

[Cyivel]

Wiggins being found to be doping would be massive in the UK and probably petty much ruin the sport here (for a period at least) given the links between Sky and Track everything would be implicated, doubt it would be any more significant than any other GT/Tour winner in other places though.

 

[thehog]

I never said anything about lies, did I!!

Mastersracer lies. He makes things up. Maybe you're looking for him?

 

[thirteen]

I don't think so. I think it would be nicely in keeping with pro cycling grand tours. More TdF wins have been subsequently stripped over the last decade than have been kept.

agree with you (and Hitch) on this one.

to claim any findings on Wiggins would be a death knell for cycling is absurd. very few outside of Britain (aside from those who follow the sport), know who he is.