Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[BroDeal]

so many marginal gains and froome is yet to see the inside of a wind tunnel. . . .

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/311174090885066753

i imagine they are afraid he starts flying after they send him to a wind tunnel

Froome is waiting for Sky to invent wind tunnel testing for cycling. Just wait. A couple of months from now we will have muppets telling us that Sky is doing high tech testing that no other team team does, like--gasp!--wind tunnel testing. Maybe the team will go all out an use Mclaren's wind tunnel so they can throw in some BS about F1 technology.

And this is the team with revolutionary attention to details. LOL.

 

[Granville57]

Who needs a wind tunnel with a blow-hard like "Sir" Wiggins on the team?

 

[thehog]

so many marginal gains and froome is yet to see the inside of a wind tunnel. . . .

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/311174090885066753

i imagine they are afraid he starts flying after they send him to a wind tunnel

Had to get ready for the Tour "at the last minute". Impressive last minute form!

 

[mastersracer]

and Nibs has no chance.

Froome and Sky decimating the race. Froome winning by 5+ minutes. Nibali - no chance.

What happened? What happened to the magical pill that transforms donkey into race horses? What happened to total domination? Don't say descending issues since Froome's group gained time on the descents. What new Sky conspiracy theory today?

 

[Cyivel]

Probably not the right thread to put this in but made me laugh a bit

 

[BroDeal]

Probably not the right thread to put this in but made me laugh a bit

Props for the username BigTex GoingtoJail. LOL.

 

[MatParker117]

They are the two I have faith in. EBH has not really improved since his htc days and seems believable. Lokvist was better than Wiggo in 2010 (possibly both riding clean) then was basically ostracised from the team after 2010. Also TL tends to struggle in the last half of a GT after being able to keep up in the first week or so. Not ride just as fast in stage 20 as in stage 2 like the rest of them.

Lokvist has had a lot of injuries in the last couple of years.

 

[sartoris]

Froome and Sky decimating the race. Froome winning by 5+ minutes. Nibali - no chance.

What happened? What happened to the magical pill that transforms donkey into race horses? What happened to total domination? Don't say descending issues since Froome's group gained time on the descents. What new Sky conspiracy theory today?

TODAY'S CONSPIRACY THEORIES:

1) Froome forgot to drink his juice for breakfast.

2) Froome simply dissembled. He could have won again, but it'd be suspicious.

3) Everyone can have a bad day. Even LA had some of his own.

 

[Cyivel]

Props for the username BigTex GoingtoJail. LOL.

Thanks but not me (if you thought it was).

 

[thehog]

Froome and Sky decimating the race. Froome winning by 5+ minutes. Nibali - no chance.

What happened? What happened to the magical pill that transforms donkey into race horses? What happened to total domination? Don't say descending issues since Froome's group gained time on the descents. What new Sky conspiracy theory today?

You want Froome to fail to point score? Seriously?

You've shown your true self today.

Disappointing. Very disappointing.

Besides. Froome gained time on flats not descents. With Evans pulling.

Ullrich '98 all over again. He was clean, yes? Pantani put 9 minutes into him. Clean on clean.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

so many marginal gains and froome is yet to see the inside of a wind tunnel. . . .

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/311174090885066753

i imagine they are afraid he starts flying after they send him to a wind tunnel

Wonder if there's more marginal gain in the publicising of his wind tunnel time vs the actual time in the tunnel.

Could always be Chunging it. Kerrison can crunch numbers and run a spreadsheet.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Probably not the right thread to put this in but made me laugh a bit

Great pic. Cound putting the boot into Wiggins version 2.0.

Polemics: love 'em.

 

[Ferminal]

I want somebody in the Clinic to prove or have some certainty that Uran is doping.

- Power files
- Progression
- Results
- Early talent

I Have been following this guy since a while back can not find anything on him.

Please, other than relation with Sky or Movistar team.

Thanks.

PS: I just read lemoogle's post. I am doomed now. Good post.

Nothing apart from dodgy teams, he's had good results every year (since he was 20!). But I think last year's Giro showed the limits of his ability in GTs. I would not expect him to be able to convert an average 7th @ 25 into a GT win @ 32.

 

[Galic Ho]

Just thought that the Sky fans can fret not. This was planned. Total victory. Absolute faith and belief in their supreme unfailing ability to win "CLEAN."

Wait, you think they're not clean? Someone slapped Froome's other half on here. She said on twitter that she is with her boy every day. Every day. So if he's doping, she is a habitual liar and an enabler. No way she is with him every day. Lying already. Oh and she's annoyed by the doubters...apparently raising suspicion denies her life of some self absorbed right above others.

I particularly liked this picture. Just think when Sky have Froome and Porte winning one thing is clearer than everything to a Sky fan. This is still a better love story than Twilight! Enjoy people.

 

[JRanton]

Interesting that's the second world tour race of the year that Sky has lost on the penultimate stage (last climb effectively).

Henao also lost the lead in Algarve on the last day but that was normal with the length of the time trial.

They won Oman and Paris-Nice. Placed four in the top ten in Qatar.

That's their six stage races so far this season.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Nothing apart from dodgy teams, he's had good results every year (since he was 20!). But I think last year's Giro showed the limits of his ability in GTs. I would not expect him to be able to convert an average 7th @ 25 into a GT win @ 32.

To be fair Sky's team at the Giro was built around Cavendish winning stages, with Uran and Henao as GT wild cards left to fend for themselves a bit

 

[Ferminal]

Yeh he pulled a couple of sprint stages. Doesn't change the result that he was outclimbed by Hesjedal/Rodriguez/Scarponi and close to Basso/Pozzovivo. If you've been developing as a stage racer for five years and still can't crack a GT podium at 25 it's going to be hard to win one as there are no more big improvements to be had (outside the obvious). At least that is what history tells us from champions of the previous era and even current champions who we know doped in their GT breakthroughs <25 (Valverde/Contador/Schleck/Cunego).

 

[JimmyFingers]

Well given the fact he says he needs a month to recover from yesterday's stage you are probably right

 

[MartinGT]

Froome and Sky decimating the race. Froome winning by 5+ minutes. Nibali - no chance.

What happened? What happened to the magical pill that transforms donkey into race horses? What happened to total domination? Don't say descending issues since Froome's group gained time on the descents. What new Sky conspiracy theory today?

So due to the sh!t weather, the technical descending, chasing 3 of the best descenders in the world, this proves The Dawg and Sky are clean.

Haha, pure comedy gold.

 

[JimmyFingers]

So due to the sh!t weather, the technical descending, chasing 3 of the best descenders in the world, this proves The Dawg and Sky are clean.

Haha, pure comedy gold.

I think it's an ironic comment on the histrionics here immediately in the aftermath of the Prati di Tivo climb. You can't hold up performances like that as definitive proof of doping then not expect others to respond in kind when the same riders have a terrible day.

Performance is not proof, either way.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Nothing apart from dodgy teams, he's had good results every year (since he was 20!). But I think last year's Giro showed the limits of his ability in GTs. I would not expect him to be able to convert an average 7th @ 25 into a GT win @ 32.

Well, if Froome can turn from an average 40th place in mountain stages to someone who beats Contador uphill, anything is possible

 

[airstream]

Well, if Froome can turn from an average 40th place in mountain stages to someone who beats Contador uphill, anything is possible

You serve this as though it happened in a flash.

 

[Netserk]

I think it's an ironic comment on the histrionics here immediately in the aftermath of the Prati di Tivo climb. You can't hold up performances like that as definitive proof of doping then not expect others to respond in kind when the same riders have a terrible day.

Performance is not proof, either way.

So if Froome went up Alpe d'Huez under 35 minutes, it wouldn't be proof that he doped?

 

[del1962]

So if Froome went up Alpe d'Huez under 35 minutes, it wouldn't be proof that he doped?

Why throw in a strawman argument?

 

[JimmyFingers]

So if Froome went up Alpe d'Huez under 35 minutes, it wouldn't be proof that he doped?

No. Performance isn't proof. It is cause for suspicion, but you can't censure a rider for racing fast, you need more. Of course it can cement opinion, like the one you hold. But your conviction that he is doping doesn't count for anything beyond message boards and twitter, and it certainly won't get the rider suspended.