Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[King Boonen]

Froome's bike according to pics i saw had srm on it.

Check 3rd pic

http://www.steephill.tv/2013/tirreno-adriatico/photos/stage-06/

I've never used one, so I'll ask probably an obvious question. Would the same head unit be used to display HR, speed etc? Could explain him having one on even if he couldn't measure power.

 

[BlenJones2]

http://www.cyclismas.com/2013/03/is-there-a-doctor-in-the-house/ Fairly reasonable point

 

[The Hitch]

All fair, but we are discussing Walsh, not the sniffers

He is not judge and jury, he is a journalist. I don't want his opinions, I want him to ask the probing questions record the answers and let me (& people) decide, that's it.
And to be clear - that's exactly what he does.

Walsh did give an opinion - that he thinks sky are clean, though hes not 100% sure, and most strangely, that he thinks their success has come from buying the best riders

 

[The Hitch]

Sickening and yet typical of this forum.
Basically what you mean is unless he echoes your biased distorted view he is a liar and an accomplice of cheats .
Pathetic

typical trolling. 1 poster who 2 out of 16000 members agree with says something stupid and its reflective of the whole forum.

 

[Benotti69]

I've never used one, so I'll ask probably an obvious question. Would the same head unit be used to display HR, speed etc? Could explain him having one on even if he couldn't measure power.

Check his chainset in pic 3. Has a the srm on it.

 

[mastersracer]

I've never used one, so I'll ask probably an obvious question. Would the same head unit be used to display HR, speed etc? Could explain him having one on even if he couldn't measure power.

speed cadence etc are measured via sensor, so independent of crank.

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.cyclismas.com/2013/03/is-there-a-doctor-in-the-house/ Fairly reasonable point

I agree, it was disgusting when Vini Fantini made the speech in front of a live audience of 10 million at Italian sports personality of the year that they proved cycling was now clean, and how the whole media has portrayed them as proof that post Armstrong cycling is now clean.

 

[mattghg]

http://www.cyclismas.com/2013/03/is-there-a-doctor-in-the-house/ Fairly reasonable point

Goodness gracious me, that is sobering reading.

 

[The Hitch]

Goodness gracious me, that is sobering reading.

Makes Sky's clean wins all the more impressive, cos everyone else is doping.

 

[thehog]

Makes Sky's clean wins all the more impressive, cos everyone else is doping.

Exception of the French teams.

Basically anyone who doesn't win doesn't have dodgy Doctors.

 

[BroDeal]

Exception of the French teams.

Basically anyone who doesn't win doesn't have dodgy Doctors.

That is the way it has been ever since this clean team snow job started up a half decade ago. The teams most outspoken about their anti-doping efforts ended up with the best results. We can only conclude that doping does not work.

 

[lemoogle]

That is the way it has been ever since this clean team snow job started up a half decade ago. The teams most outspoken about their anti-doping efforts ended up with the best results. We can only conclude that doping does not work.

It's even worse that those team so outspoken always managed to get the strongest believers on top of the results.

I was half proud of being French from looking at that doctors article, but then I realized it's really not something to be proud of, this is what decades of doping have done to us, the remote possibility of being clean now deserves a medal or two.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Makes Sky's clean wins all the more impressive, cos everyone else is doping.

It's a lovely f*ucking war

 

[Bumeington]

Check his chainset in pic 3. Has a the srm on it.

So Froome has an SRM on Chieti stage but I think DB is referring to Prati di Tivo stage where we saw the sky train in action

 

[sniper]

Goodness gracious me, that is sobering reading.

If you've been living under a rock in the past two decades, then I can imagine this is sobering reading.

 

[northstar]

So Froome has an SRM on Chieti stage but I think DB is referring to Prati di Tivo stage where we saw the sky train in action

What do you mean?

Brailsford said the guys didn’t have SRMs on their bikes on Sunday and Monday. Prati di Tivo stage was Saturday.

 

[cocteau_ireland]

Am looking forward to walsh's piece in sunday times this wkend.

 

[northstar]

Brailsford now claims Leinders was employed by Sky for 40 days. Over a 3 year period, that would mean Leinders worked 16.5 days a year. How does a person pay the bills working only 16 days a year? It doesn’t make any sense. Was Leinders moonlighting elsewhere? Is he so wealthy he didn’t need the income? Exactly how much did Sky pay for Leinders’ experience?

Brailsford needs to provide a better explanation about why and what was a doping doctor doing at Sky.

 

[Benotti69]

Brailsford now claims Leinders was employed by Sky for 40 days. Over a 3 year period, that would mean Leinders worked 16.5 days a year. How does a person pay the bills working only 16 days a year? It doesn’t make any sense. Was Leinders moonlighting elsewhere? Is he so wealthy he didn’t need the income? Exactly how much did Sky pay for Leinders’ experience?

Brailsford needs to provide a better explanation about why and what was a doping doctor doing at Sky.

Brailsford could be transparent and show the contract or the amount paid to Leinders.

Brailsford must be fuming that Sky are getting all this flak while the other teams get little. But he proclaimed Sky to be the clean and transparent team. He has yet to deliver on that.

Why has Hayman not been sent packing like Jullich and others?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Brailsford now claims Leinders was employed by Sky for 40 days. Over a 3 year period, that would mean Leinders worked 16.5 days a year. How does a person pay the bills working only 16 days a year? It doesn’t make any sense. Was Leinders moonlighting elsewhere? Is he so wealthy he didn’t need the income? Exactly how much did Sky pay for Leinders’ experience?

Brailsford needs to provide a better explanation about why and what was a doping doctor doing at Sky.

Its called performance pay.

Deliver P-N victory = $25k

Get Tour de Romandie = $25k

Bank Critérium du Dauphiné = $25k

Dominate Tour de France = $100k

Gold medal in London = $50K


Bonus for all five = $200k

 

[Catwhoorg]

Lets see what questions were asked this week about Leinders, and how he answered them on Sunday.

 

[northstar]

Its called performance pay.

Deliver P-N victory = $25k

Get Tour de Romandie = $25k

Bank Critérium du Dauphiné = $25k

Dominate Tour de France = $100k

Gold medal in London = $50K


Bonus for all five = $200k

Oh I bet the gold medal was worth more than $50K. After all, British Cycling’s lottery funding is based on how many medals won at the Olympics and I think cycling won more than other sport. No doubt all Team Sky and BC employees were handed nice bonuses at the end of the year, including Geert.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Oh I bet the gold medal was worth more than $50K. After all, British Cycling’s lottery funding is based on how many medals won at the Olympics and I think cycling won more than other sport. No doubt all Team Sky and BC employees were handed nice bonuses at the end of the year, including Geert.

offshore account of choice....

Golden handshake with NDA attached another $150K.

It simply pays to be a doping doctor, which is why we have so many.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-hits-back-at-accusations-and-criticism-of-team-sky



Well, Dave, how about this nice video that points out they did ride with SRM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DSHAU27uIcA

averages:
245 Watts
116 heartrate
72RPM
37.5 kphr

They forgot to tell Lloyd it seems.
http://road.cc/content/news/78268-video-secrets-commentary-box…-chris-froomes-srm

When a team manager makes a statement about a race he was not even at, it's a case of .

 

[mikehammer67]

Brailsford now claims Leinders was employed by Sky for 40 days. Over a 3 year period, that would mean Leinders worked 16.5 days a year. How does a person pay the bills working only 16 days a year? It doesn’t make any sense. Was Leinders moonlighting elsewhere? Is he so wealthy he didn’t need the income? Exactly how much did Sky pay for Leinders’ experience?

Brailsford needs to provide a better explanation about why and what was a doping doctor doing at Sky.

he got paid 'cash' for the dodgy stuff

they're only declaring the 40 days spent dispensing over-the-counter medicine and treating saddle sores

80 days total