Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Was it Liege in the 95 Tour where he rode away from the peloton?

With Bruyneel? I believe it was. That was a magical one

 

[Pancreas]

Froome going all out would be really great. Like Sestrières Stage 9 would be wonderful ..will he be able to?

Doesn't get better than this:

"He weighs 20 pounds lighter than 3 or 4 years ago and he's got the strength he had before..."

Now, where do we hear the same now?

 

[zalacain]

I agree.

Their acting is terrible.

Get Daniel Day Lewis to teach them now to look tired.

The problem with DDL is that he would want to ride the Tour as past of his preparation.
Shame he's too old to play Tom Simpson in the upcoming film though

 

[zalacain]

Damn I keep forgetting Dauphiné is on early. Curse you, Roland Garros!

Although I suppose at least missing it saved me from some serious anger.

Saved you nodding off too

 

[Ripper]

Geraint Thomas is improving his climbing ability by about ten percent every day. He has always been one of my favourite riders but that was ridiculous from him today.

Yes, I like G. I had been thinking he'd be outstanding in the classics if he could a) stay on his bike, b) improve his endurance, and c) stay on his bike.

But I also was watching and thinking ... OK, another Sky transforgmacation where someone can now climb the cols. Can't wait. It'll be a bunch of "he's got the talent because of track, he just has not focused on the road" BS.

Marginal. M M M Marginal Mar Gin Al There gonna a get ya.

 

[thehog]

Yes, I like G. I had been thinking he'd be outstanding in the classics if he could a) stay on his bike, b) improve his endurance, and c) stay on his bike.

But I also was watching and thinking ... OK, another Sky transforgmacation where someone can now climb the cols. Can't wait. It'll be a bunch of "he's got the talent because of track, he just has not focused on the road" BS.

Marginal. M M M Marginal Mar Gin Al There gonna a get ya.

Yes and he finished in the Rogers Contador group after all that work he did.

 

[roundabout]

He has better pursuit numbers than Wiggins.

 

[thehog]

He has better pursuit numbers than Wiggins.

Numbers!

 

[hrotha]

Thomas isn't suspicious for me, except by association. He could always climb at this level, except for last year, when he focused on the track. He put on a lot of weight, and he couldn't climb at all, but he did his best ITTs ever. Which is what you'd expect, contrary to some who allegedly drop tons of weight but improve their time-trialing and even their sprint.

 

[roundabout]

Numbers!

4 minute power and all that jazz

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Yes, I like G. I had been thinking he'd be outstanding in the classics if he could a) stay on his bike, b) improve his endurance, and c) stay on his bike.

But I also was watching and thinking ... OK, another Sky transforgmacation where someone can now climb the cols. Can't wait. It'll be a bunch of "he's got the talent because of track, he just has not focused on the road" BS.

Marginal. M M M Marginal Mar Gin Al There gonna a get ya.

I wouldn't have such a big problem if he had shown improvement over time but it's only 4 months since he was awful on Willunga, that day he looked like a 3km climb was beyond his capabilities. Now this. Kennaugh's transformation from a rider who couldn't get in the Giro team a few weeks ago is also puzzling. Luke Rowe will be next.

 

[Red Rick]

Let's celibrate the first anniversary of this thread with one of the most ridiculous Sky performances to date

 

[the sceptic]

Let's celibrate the first anniversary of this thread with one of the most ridiculous Sky performances to date

indeed. I dont think many here predicted they would be even more ridiculous this year.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Thomas isn't suspicious for me, except by association. He could always climb at this level, except for last year, when he focused on the track. He put on a lot of weight, and he couldn't climb at all, but he did his best ITTs ever. Which is what you'd expect, contrary to some who allegedly drop tons of weight but improve their time-trialing and even their sprint.

I think one key fact will be just how much weight he loses. And if his TTing gets better. You are right that he has ability. The stage where he pulled Uran being a good example (I think someone else mentioned it) but I guess it's a case of wait and see.

 

[The Hitch]

Thomas isn't suspicious for me, except by association. He could always climb at this level, except for last year, when he focused on the track. He put on a lot of weight, and he couldn't climb at all, but he did his best ITTs ever. Which is what you'd expect, contrary to some who allegedly drop tons of weight but improve their time-trialing and even their sprint.

He may be just about at the limit of whats believable atm.

But, why do you think he was a good climber. At the tour when he got the white jersey in 2010 and said he wanted to defend it as long as possible yet lost it on the Station des Rousses stages where he bombed 4 minutes even though the stage was soft pedalled and not even that hard.

 

[thehog]

He may be just about at the limit of whats believable atm.

But, why do you think he was a good climber. At the tour when he got the white jersey in 2010 and said he wanted to defend it as long as possible yet lost it on the Station des Rousses stages where he bombed 4 minutes even though the stage was soft pedalled and not even that hard.

It will only get worse.

Thomas will climb better at the Tour.

GT is a better choice than Froome for the next Sky GT champion.

I think they need to give him the full program next year. And let him win the Tour.

Forget the Classics.

Wiggins is gone. Ship the Dawg off to BMC, Thomas for the Tour.

 

[Ripper]

Thomas isn't suspicious for me, except by association. He could always climb at this level, except for last year, when he focused on the track. He put on a lot of weight, and he couldn't climb at all, but he did his best ITTs ever. Which is what you'd expect, contrary to some who allegedly drop tons of weight but improve their time-trialing and even their sprint.

He did a pretty good ITT earlier this week. 10th, but only 50s behind Froome and closer to EBH and RP.

Let's just say one of my eyebrows went up.

Do keep in mind his role was to police Dodgers and Conti, et al. I have no doubt that if they had been bridging up, G would have been right there with them. So he could have been closer. Also keep in mind he has been a total gregario in this race - lots of grunt work, but still came in 15th overall.

Hmmmmmm

 

[The Hitch]

It will only get worse.

Thomas will climb better at the Tour.

GT is a better choice than Froome for the next Sky GT champion.

Considering you have the worst record at predictions of anyone in the history of the internet, im not going to take your word for it.

 

[thehog]

Considering you have the worst record at predictions of anyone in the history of the internet, im not going to take your word for it.

This is Sky we're talking about.

Anything is possible

 

[The Hitch]

He did a pretty good ITT earlier this week. 10th, but only 50s behind Froome and closer to EBH and RP.

Let's just say one of my eyebrows went up.

Theres no reason why Thomas shouldnt be able to tt. Hes always been a good tter. Its the climbing that should raise 1 of your eyebrows.

 

[SundayRider]

I think the guy on the right is the motoman.

I've never bought the 'big head' theories before until now !:

 

[thehog]

I've never bought the 'big head' theories before until now !:

Look in the background.

A banana and two tubs or chamois cream.

Be afraid. Very afraid.

 

[IndianCyclist]

In the Dauphine they won the team classification. Imagine my surprise when the "B" team they sent to the Tour d'Suisse achieved the last position after the prologue

 

[Ripper]

Theres no reason why Thomas shouldnt be able to tt. Hes always been a good tter. Its the climbing that should raise 1 of your eyebrows.

It was the climbing that raised the eyebrow. The point about the TT was - TT is about the same (and where it should be), but climbing better. So, it`s beginning to look like weight loss with no loss in TT.

It`s all marginal gains

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Sky need a different bike sponsor. I suggest Chinarello. Fraud team, fake bike. Perfect fit.