JRanton said:To be honest today was the first I'd heard of Motoman working with Froome and Porte. It doesn't look great does it?
del1962 said:Shock news, Froome and Porte use bike mechanic to fix bikes, read all about it in the clinic
JimmyFingers said:It's looks to me unsubstantiated and ambiguous, like most of it really.
gooner said:It has been known for months. I have pointed this and the article out on at least a dozen occasions around here in the hope of getting through to some(not referring to you) that it goes against the notion that Times journalists are hindered totally in their reporting on Sky.
I can see after today I have been banging my head against a brick wall.
EnacheV said:I'm sure he is injecting them PED's in the back of his bike shop. He is the only one that can do that, i'm sure all teams use him, because he has experience, a low profile, and nobody can do it like him.
Probably Yates introduced him with some occasion (like that Facebook picture in front of the shop) an the guy want's some free publicity with "i worked with".
But the handful of dopeborgs will re chew this with frenzy for a couple of weeks.
Well of course not. Just that they probably just checked that the rear mech was okay and the intentions behind their collaboration were definitely good.JRanton said:Are you suggesting the Times journalist is lying and that Motoman didn't tell him that he worked with Froome and Porte?
JRanton said:Are you suggesting the Times journalist is lying and that Motoman didn't tell him that he worked with Froome and Porte?
JRanton said:Yates, Leinders, Motoman....
It doesn't look good.
JimmyFingers said:Far be it for me to accuse journalists of lying, clearly something they never do. And Motoman is an upstanding chap, so I'm sure he wouldn't lie either. Case closed then, throw away the key, convicted by a tweet, thank god we've solved that particular mystery.
They would have got away with too, if it wasn't for us pesky kids
thehog said:They're not as bad as Ferrari so I think it's ok.
Plus they have zero tolorance to doping. So can't imagine anything going on.
JRanton said:Not forgetting their coach, Bobby Julich. So that's the team doctor, the sports director, their personal training coach and good old Motoman supposedly playing the role as part-time Mechanic.
It doesn't look good.
JRanton said:Not forgetting their coach, Bobby Julich. So that's the team doctor, the sports director, their personal training coach and good old Motoman supposedly playing the role as part-time Mechanic.
It doesn't look good.
this was gonna get out sooner or later, with or without Slot.thehog said:
WHat is this you keep mentioning about limited hangout?sniper said:It was Limited Hangout by Owen Slot.
The Dutch NOS tv crew, who did a report on Motoman during the Tour, knew Motoman was hanging out with Yates already in the spring of 2013:
this was gonna get out sooner or later, with or without Slot.
Slot's tweet that he believes it has nothing to do with doping suggests one thing: Limited Hangout OP.
thehog said:Ok. But they are working harder than the other teams.
And there's been no hospital room incident.
JRanton said:Why on earth would Owen Slot, the Times Chief Sports reporter, lie about that?
That's the dumbest claim I've seen on here and there's been plenty of competition (from both sides).
JRanton said:Not forgetting their coach, Bobby Julich. So that's the team doctor, the sports director, their personal training coach and good old Motoman supposedly playing the role as part-time Mechanic.
It doesn't look good.
sniper said:It was Limited Hangout by Owen Slot.
The Dutch NOS tv crew, who did a report on Motoman during the Tour, knew Motoman was hanging out with Yates already in the spring of 2013:
this was gonna get out sooner or later, with or without Slot.
Slot's tweet that he believes it has nothing to do with doping suggests one thing: Limited Hangout OP.
Zam_Olyas said:Good post, hog, but do you have a link for that?
JimmyFingers said:I didn't say it was a lie, I said it was unsubstantiated, he tweeted it didn't he? I don't know the whole truth of it. Clearly you do.
JRanton said:Jeremy Whittle was also there when Motoman told them that he'd worked with Froome and Porte. Are you seriously suggesting that Motoman didn't tell them that?
EnacheV said:This to teach Astana/Saxo/ and the other clean teams who to call. You always call the "known" experts, it's the safest way. Nothing wrong can happen when you pick a "low" profile man for a job that can be done by thousands.
Aka, it doesn't make sense from logic pov.
Btw, how many of those (trainer, coach, whatever) work at Sky? To many to check.
Zam_Olyas said:WHat is this you keep mentioning about limited hangout?
blackcat said: