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JRanton said:
To be honest today was the first I'd heard of Motoman working with Froome and Porte. It doesn't look great does it?

It has been known for months. I have pointed this and the article out on at least a dozen occasions around here in the hope of getting through to some(not referring to you) that it goes against the notion that Times journalists are hindered totally in their reporting on Sky.

I can see after today I have been banging my head against a brick wall.
 
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del1962 said:
Shock news, Froome and Porte use bike mechanic to fix bikes, read all about it in the clinic

Shock news, Froome and Porte use blood doping courier, read all about it in the clinic....

;)
 
gooner said:
It has been known for months. I have pointed this and the article out on at least a dozen occasions around here in the hope of getting through to some(not referring to you) that it goes against the notion that Times journalists are hindered totally in their reporting on Sky.

I can see after today I have been banging my head against a brick wall.

I've followed this thread quite closely and I don't remember you bringing this up (not saying you haven't but I'd be surprised if you've mentioned it on a dozen occasions). It doesn't help that the Times' articles are behind a pay wall of course.
 
EnacheV said:
I'm sure he is injecting them PED's in the back of his bike shop. He is the only one that can do that, i'm sure all teams use him, because he has experience, a low profile, and nobody can do it like him.

Probably Yates introduced him with some occasion (like that Facebook picture in front of the shop) an the guy want's some free publicity with "i worked with".

But the handful of dopeborgs will re chew this with frenzy for a couple of weeks.

Yates, Leinders, Motoman....

It doesn't look good.
 
JRanton said:
Are you suggesting the Times journalist is lying and that Motoman didn't tell him that he worked with Froome and Porte?
Well of course not. Just that they probably just checked that the rear mech was okay and the intentions behind their collaboration were definitely good.

Guess we all had got the zero tolerance policy backwards. Most likely it meant hire no one without a shady past.
 
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JRanton said:
Are you suggesting the Times journalist is lying and that Motoman didn't tell him that he worked with Froome and Porte?

Far be it for me to accuse journalists of lying, clearly something they never do. And Motoman is an upstanding chap, so I'm sure he wouldn't lie either. Case closed then, throw away the key, convicted by a tweet, thank god we've solved that particular mystery.

They would have got away with too, if it wasn't for us pesky kids
 
JimmyFingers said:
Far be it for me to accuse journalists of lying, clearly something they never do. And Motoman is an upstanding chap, so I'm sure he wouldn't lie either. Case closed then, throw away the key, convicted by a tweet, thank god we've solved that particular mystery.

They would have got away with too, if it wasn't for us pesky kids

Why on earth would Owen Slot, the Times Chief Sports reporter, lie about that?

That's the dumbest claim I've seen on here and there's been plenty of competition (from both sides).
 
thehog said:
They're not as bad as Ferrari so I think it's ok.

Plus they have zero tolorance to doping. So can't imagine anything going on.

Not forgetting their coach, Bobby Julich. So that's the team doctor, the sports director, their personal training coach and good old Motoman supposedly playing the role as part-time Mechanic.

It doesn't look good.
 
JRanton said:
Not forgetting their coach, Bobby Julich. So that's the team doctor, the sports director, their personal training coach and good old Motoman supposedly playing the role as part-time Mechanic.

It doesn't look good.

Ok. But they are working harder than the other teams.

And there's been no hospital room incident.
 
JRanton said:
Not forgetting their coach, Bobby Julich. So that's the team doctor, the sports director, their personal training coach and good old Motoman supposedly playing the role as part-time Mechanic.

It doesn't look good.

I see your point, but they are not using Bruneel or Carmichael.
 
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It was Limited Hangout by Owen Slot.
The Dutch NOS tv crew, who did a report on Motoman during the Tour, knew Motoman was hanging out with Yates already in the spring of 2013:
thehog said:
this was gonna get out sooner or later, with or without Slot.
Slot's tweet that he believes it has nothing to do with doping suggests one thing: Limited Hangout OP.
 

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This to teach Astana/Saxo/ and the other clean teams who to call. You always call the "known" experts, it's the safest way. Nothing wrong can happen when you pick a "low" profile man for a job that can be done by thousands.

Aka, it doesn't make sense from logic pov.

Btw, how many of those (trainer, coach, whatever) work at Sky? To many to check.
 
sniper said:
It was Limited Hangout by Owen Slot.
The Dutch NOS tv crew, who did a report on Motoman during the Tour, knew Motoman was hanging out with Yates already in the spring of 2013:

this was gonna get out sooner or later, with or without Slot.
Slot's tweet that he believes it has nothing to do with doping suggests one thing: Limited Hangout OP.
WHat is this you keep mentioning about limited hangout?
 
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JRanton said:
Why on earth would Owen Slot, the Times Chief Sports reporter, lie about that?

That's the dumbest claim I've seen on here and there's been plenty of competition (from both sides).

I didn't say it was a lie, I said it was unsubstantiated, he tweeted it didn't he? I don't know the whole truth of it. Clearly you do.
 
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JRanton said:
Not forgetting their coach, Bobby Julich. So that's the team doctor, the sports director, their personal training coach and good old Motoman supposedly playing the role as part-time Mechanic.

It doesn't look good.

Do you need to say that every post? And haven't they removed all of these characters? This was all discussed a year ago, seriously.
 

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sniper said:
It was Limited Hangout by Owen Slot.
The Dutch NOS tv crew, who did a report on Motoman during the Tour, knew Motoman was hanging out with Yates already in the spring of 2013:

this was gonna get out sooner or later, with or without Slot.
Slot's tweet that he believes it has nothing to do with doping suggests one thing: Limited Hangout OP.

Slot wrote about Motoman on July 3rd.

Which is the "limited hangout"?
That Slot wrote a tweet as LH for a piece Slot wrote and published in July?
Or the piece Slot wrote in July was a LH for Slots tweet?
 
JimmyFingers said:
I didn't say it was a lie, I said it was unsubstantiated, he tweeted it didn't he? I don't know the whole truth of it. Clearly you do.

Jeremy Whittle was also there when Motoman told them that he'd worked with Froome and Porte. Are you seriously suggesting that Motoman didn't tell them that?
 
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JRanton said:
Jeremy Whittle was also there when Motoman told them that he'd worked with Froome and Porte. Are you seriously suggesting that Motoman didn't tell them that?

Do you understand the words I'm saying? I'm saying it's unsubstantiated, I wasn't privy to the conversation, so far I've heard about it from someone quoting a tweet from journalist on an internet forum. Clearly your sources are better.
 
EnacheV said:
This to teach Astana/Saxo/ and the other clean teams who to call. You always call the "known" experts, it's the safest way. Nothing wrong can happen when you pick a "low" profile man for a job that can be done by thousands.

Aka, it doesn't make sense from logic pov.


Btw, how many of those (trainer, coach, whatever) work at Sky? To many to check.

What on earth are you on about?