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regularly?
T.MArtin has been beaten by many since last year. and it happened before, like when Alberto beat the TT world champion at the Tour 2009
Blanco said:macbindle said:Blanco said:macbindle said:Really? Evidence??
All we know is that they abused the TUE system and that Froome over-used an asthma medicine.
Evidence? I'm not in court, I call it as I see it!
You just need to see them race in races which are most important to them (aka Le Tour), and everything becomes clear.
They make wonders. They turn track specialists into climbers, nobody's into multiple GT winners, lightweight riders into best TT-ists, rolleurs into de luxe climbers, and so on and on...
They invented marginal gains :lol: They train harder, they're smarter, they have more determination, etc.
And they are doing that being totally clean. We just need to believe them, that's all. They're the champions of clean cycling. All we need to do is to believe on their word. That's it.
They haven't managed to get fat guys climbing mountains like aeroplanes (to quote Lemond) so they aren't the worst in cycling history.![]()
It's nonsense in fact. Sheer overstatement and exaggeration. I agree with some of what you said with your allusions to Froome, but if you think that they run a team wide doping programme à la USPS, then you are deluded. Sure, they occupy grey areas. Sure, they probably outright dope certain riders, but to pretend that they dope as if it was the 1990s is just nonsense.
Oh...and they have an active PR department, hence the marginal gains nonsense. Big deal.
But they have skinny guys of 65-70 kg regularly beating worlds top TT-ists, while climbing at the same time like freaking Bahamontes! So I guess there's no much difference...
As far as wide doping program concerns, let's wait a bit, I reckon an unpleasant surprise awaits you.
And about that PR stuff, nobody done that in such manner in whole history of cycling, with such arrogance and hypocrisy. They called the avalanche, let them bear the consequences now!
regularly?
T.MArtin has been beaten by many since last year. and it happened before, like when Alberto beat the TT world champion at the Tour 2009