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Bradley (Lance) Wiggans
Chris (Ricco) Froome

Sky = dope (USPS v.2)

Brad - provide all test results and blood values and then maybe, just maybe this would be believable. Right now it is not.
 
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Love the Scenery said:
Is there any evidence anywhere in Froome's history that would make it believable for him to beat Cancellara in a time trial?

http://www.chris-froome.com/news/7-froome-trainingpeaks-analysis

Evans is weaker than last year, is clearly aging, and has had a bad day.

Cancellara is weaker than last year, from spring broken shoulder.

Both shown by their performance vs. Van Garderen and Chavanel. He could barely beat them.

That said, I don't quite believe Sky, either.
 
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Don't be late Pedro said:
To be fair that is Sean Kelly for 95% of his commentating.

Usually where doping is concerned he just shuts up. Here he said its unbelievable
that Froome beats cancellara over the course.
 

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Jun 8, 2010
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What about this? 2009 van Garderen 13th World Championships U23 TT. Now comes within 9 seconds of Cancellara. Suspicious? Evidence of systematic doping on BMC? Who is their DS? Have a connection to Yates?
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Love the Scenery said:
Chris Froome: the latest incarnation of Floyd Landis, Michael Rasmussen, and Ricardo Ricco. Does anyone--rider, fan, anyone--believe in this performance? They have made a mockery of the TDF, again. Again, they throw an unbelievable out of the blue performance in our faces, and do they really expect us to believe it this time?

Sky apologists, anywhere? Is there any evidence anywhere in Froome's history that would make it believable for him to beat Cancellara in a time trial?

No. Look at his past results.

Longer ITTs mostly between 25-40 placings, bar the 2011 Vuelta, when he surprised everyone.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=931244&postcount=902
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=931246&postcount=903
 
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mastersracer said:
What about this? 2009 van Garderen 13th World Championships U23 TT. Now comes within 9 seconds of Cancellara. Suspicious? Evidence of systematic doping on BMC? Who is their DS? Have a connection to Yates?
I'm sure there's a BMC thread out there. If there's not, feel free to start one. There's plenty to say about BMC, but that doesn't have anything to do with Sky.
 
Sep 23, 2009
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Love the Scenery said:
Chris Froome: the latest incarnation of Floyd Landis, Michael Rasmussen, and Ricardo Ricco. Does anyone--rider, fan, anyone--believe in this performance? They have made a mockery of the TDF, again. Again, they throw an unbelievable out of the blue performance in our faces, and do they really expect us to believe it this time?

Sky apologists, anywhere? Is there any evidence anywhere in Froome's history that would make it believable for him to beat Cancellara in a time trial?


I am happy to apologise for Sky, even if it is going to fall on my head. Chicken Stricken!!
 
Apr 20, 2009
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I started to suspect Wiggins when he decided to leave Garmin because they weren't professional enough. I had wondered if he wasn't happy with the no needle policy. After all a premier league team wouldn't have such a restriction.
 
Sep 20, 2011
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Who is going to start the poll 'Which day is Sky going to pick for their fake brakedown to make this a little more believable'? ;)
 
Jul 4, 2010
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So Froome will of got the dope control the other day for winning. No doubt Wiggo has been there too and he will sure do now for winning todays stage.

How quick is the turn around?
 
Mar 4, 2010
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Having four team mates improve by a huge amount in such a short period of time is about as suspicious as it gets. But it's worse than that. Their medical staff is dirty and multiple Sky riders are considered very likely dopers by the experts with access to bio-passport data.

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Geert Leinders - he was with Rabobank when it had a tolerance, Jan Koerts said he helped him stay below 50%

Rabobank tolerated doping on cycling team, De Rooy claims

Medical staff said to have overseen riders' activities

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rabobank-tolerated-doping-on-cycling-team-de-rooy-claims

The French newspaper L'Equipe on Friday published a list of all the riders participating in last year's Tour de France and their individual scores of suspicion for doping from a confidential International Cycling Union document.

As explained by the newspaper, only the scores of zero and one meant that the riders had a very clean record. Ratings from two to four were based on stable passports which nevertheless showed a rare abnormality at a precise time. From five upwards, the comments associated to the rider files started to become much more precise, "even affirmative" according to L'Equipe.

From six to ten, the circumstantial evidence of possible doping was "overwhelming". According to the paper, some of the riders located to the top of list have already been singled out by the biological passport and evaluated by the panel of nine experts, even if no procedure was opened.
"Still, some of the files' commentaries are damning. Recurrent abnormal profiles, enormous fluctuations, identification of the used doping product and means of administration..." wrote L'Equipe's anti-doping expert journalist Damien Ressiot.

5 ...Bradley Wiggins

6 ...Christian Knees... Geraint Thomas

7 ...Michael Rogers

8 ...Kanstantsin Siutsou

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ucis-suspicious-list-leaked-from-2010-tour-de-france

Mørkeberg has just finished a Ph. D. dissertation entitled Detection of Autologous Blood Transfusions via Analyses of Peripheral Blood Samples, and is working on a method to trace this method of doping.

His aforementioned Tour de France study catalogued seven riders in the 2007 race, revealing lower hemoglobin and lower hematocrit (percentage of red blood cells in whole blood) on day 19 when compared to their pre-Tour reading. On average hemoglobin dropped 11.5% and hematocrit fell by 12.1%, keeping in line with physiological expectations.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/analysis-armstrongs-tour-blood-levels-debated

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http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/385285/bradley-wiggins-tour-de-france-blood-values.html
 
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drfunk000 said:
I started to suspect Wiggins when he decided to leave Garmin because they weren't professional enough. I had wondered if he wasn't happy with the no needle policy. After all a premier league team wouldn't have such a restriction.

*ding* Ah-haaaaaaa

I wonder what Cav is thinking now.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Good to see Team SKY informed ASO this was going to happen during their meeting earlier this year. They had a chance to scrutinize the riders' data, and knew it would pass the smell test.

I am ASO and I support this message. :D
 
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Bala Verde said:
No. Look at his past results.

Longer ITTs mostly between 25-40 placings, bar the 2011 Vuelta, when he surprised everyone.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=931244&postcount=902
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=931246&postcount=903

Thank you Bala Verde
To summarize
2008 stage 4 TDF 29K, 33rd
2008 stage 16 TDF, 53K, 16th
2009 stage 10 Giro, 62K, 34th
2009 stage 21 Giro, 14.5K, 32nd
2010 stage 2 Giro, 2nd
2010 stage 16 Giro mountain TT, 39th
2011 stage 12 Vuelta, 2nd

Those are Froome's TT results

Let us hope Sky has the cojones to remove this guy from the Tour or the gendarmes catch him at his transfusion. Repulsive. Just when cycling seemed to be moving away from this, here comes this character to do it again. But it's too late now. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is buying this.
 
Dec 27, 2010
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I hope Brad comes out and said I had an amazing day, 51 minutes @ 510W, and then sits back and watches this thread.
 

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