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movingtarget said:I don't like them at all. I wish they would disappear.
Capablanca and me said:and its bad? confuse the overall? i think is good
force the climbers to attack, not just in the last 3-4 km in the mountains
cineteq said:It allows for opportunities for some, however it could doom others. Same thing as an ITT or a MTF would do. Another variable of many variables that would enrich GTs.
Well, we are in luck, I don't think you make sense at all, as usual.The Hitch said:That doesn't make any sense.
An mtf if my team is **** and im about to be "doomed" i dig deep and limit my losses.
RedheadDane said:A really technical TTT, preferably ending with a climb!
Bavarianrider said:IT's a team sport
IT's the most beautiful discipline of the sport.
However, thse gimmick 25km TTT are simply pathetic.
No one needs that.
So either make a real 60km TTT or just leave it.
woodenswan said:also, why call one random TTT the World Championships?
Afrank said:What? The world TTT wasn't a random TTT that they decided to make the world TTT. It was designed to be the team time trial for the world championships and was held in the same week as all the other world championship events.
woodenswan said:ahmm.. so it isn't a random TTT event because it's called the WC and held at a particular date?! nice reasoning mate
obviously what i meant was the fact that it is contested by trade teams so there's absolutely no reason for it to be named a WC event.
Cogombre said:I don't like short gimmick TTTs like those RCS and Unipublic love so much, they feel like a waste of a race day. If they are going to throw a TTT in a GT route, it should be long enough to impact the race (>45km) otherwise I don't see the point.
And not every year, of course. One each 3/4 editions seems about right to me.
Afrank said:And the event wouldn't have worked if national teams contested it. Who could we consider the TTT champions then?
woodenswan said:???
think.
it's good for you.
Afrank said:, yeah we should have national teams contest and then hope all the riders on the winning team are all on the same trade team. Teams are made up of riders from many different countries so to have a team be the world team time trial champions it has to be the trade teams that compete.
DominicDecoco said:Now that's a wrong statement in many ways.
SafeBet said:How about mentioning one of them instead of being so criptic?
Libertine Seguros said:TTTs are, however, here to stay. If the 2009 Tour didn't kill the TTT off for good, nothing can, sadly. Here's the top 4 teams in the TTT that year:
Astana
Saxo Bank
Garmin
Liquigas
Here are the teams for the top 10 on GC that year:
Astana
Saxo Bank
Astana
Garmin
Saxo Bank
Astana
Liquigas
Garmin
Liquigas
Française des Jeux
Yeah, cause one rider can't influence how a team prepares and cooperates.The Hitch said:That doesn't make any sense.
An mtf if my team is **** and im about to be "doomed" i dig deep and limit my losses.
In a ttt it doesn't matter what i do because i get measured on the time of the 4th weakest rider of my team.