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Things are going very poorly in the world of Swiss cycling. After the financial situation of the Tour de Suisse caused it to be massively downscaled, the Tour de Romandie is running without a main sponsor this year - and the organisers say they don't have the financial reserves to do so next year too. There is a gap of nearly 10% in their annual budget for this edition.

It's also interesting that this potentially fatal issue surfaces in the year Pogacar is taking part, and the year after Evenepoel did - further evidence that the biggest names in the sport aren't as commercially interesting as a lot of people think?

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The one and only biggest superstar of the sport is attending, and they still don't have a main sponsor for the leader's jersey. Something really is wrong with cycling's business model 🤔 😕
 
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And to think, they could have kept it on Saturday, and given us full race coverage.

I think we can be quite certain that wouldn't have happened anyway. Moving it away from the day of the sportive isn't necessarily a bad thing. We just need them to start broadcasting before the end of the men's race if they keep this format going forward.
 
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I think we can be quite certain that wouldn't have happened anyway.

Okay, maybe not this year... (Buuu) but by keeping it on Saturday it would at least be theoretically possible.
I'm sure ASO thinks moving it to Sunday is a brilliant idea, so they unfortunately probably aren't going to let smarter heads prevail and move it back to Saturday for next year.
 
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The issue is made worse by also moving the junior mens race to Sunday as from last year, now adding the women just creates this rather poor situation.
Make the big boys get up earlier and put them on first.
Now if Zwift offered to sponsor the womens race Pruddy might become interested in changing the timings.
 
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The issue is made worse by also moving the junior mens race to Sunday as from last year, now adding the women just creates this rather poor situation.
Make the big boys get up earlier and put them on first.
Now if Zwift offered to sponsor the womens race Pruddy might become interested in changing the timings.

The Junior (men's) race has been on the same day as the Elite Men's race for years.

And I'm pretty sure the U23 (men's) race got moved to the same day in 2024.
 
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The Junior (men's) race has been on the same day as the Elite Men's race for years.

And I'm pretty sure the U23 (men's) race got moved to the same day in 2024.
The Junior (men's) race has been on the same day as the Elite Men's race for years.

And I'm pretty sure the U23 (men's) race got moved to the same day in 2024.
Yes the u23 was moved in 24, I recall spectators jumping out of the way at the last moment not realising the race was coming.
The issue is there has never been four races on the same day before.
 
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Yes the u23 was moved in 24, I recall spectators jumping out of the way at the last moment not realising the race was coming.
The issue is there has never been four races on the same day before.
Gent-Wevelgem infamously used to do seven on the same day (including a couple of non-UCI ones) and those weren't point-to-point routes.

The fundamental problem is that it's still very difficult to make women's races (not to mention the U23 and junior ones) profitable, and needing to run the whole logistical operation two days instead of one doesn't help with that (yes, there is the cyclosportive on Saturday, but that isn't subject to the same rules and logistical requirements - for starters, you don't have spectators to deal with). ASO have presumably been running the women's race at a financial loss for the past five years (Gouvenou did mention financial and organisational reasons when explaining the change), there is no reason for the local government to prefer the old arrangement (roads closed for longer, police operations required for longer), and it also requires either more volunteers or volunteers to be available for longer when it's becoming harder to find volunteers pretty much everywhere. That wasn't a sustainable equilibrium.

It's also another warning sign that the ground beneath women's cycling remains very shaky in spite of its growth in the past decade. We already knew the teams were struggling to make ends meet when even some of the bigger ones had to reduce their squad signs to cope with the new WWT regulations, we learned in December that ASO were struggling to make ends meet with women's Roubaix (not as big a deal for ASO, but it should be obvious that smaller organisers have similar issues), and now we're learning that it's having a greater effect on media exposure than already feared. For years, women's cycling was obviously in an upward spiral: I don't think it is anymore, and I also don't feel like it would take that much for things to enter a downward spiral instead.
 
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Gent-Wevelgem infamously used to do seven on the same day (including a couple of non-UCI ones) and those weren't point-to-point routes.

The fundamental problem is that it's still very difficult to make women's races (not to mention the U23 and junior ones) profitable, and needing to run the whole logistical operation two days instead of one doesn't help with that (yes, there is the cyclosportive on Saturday, but that isn't subject to the same rules and logistical requirements - for starters, you don't have spectators to deal with). ASO have presumably been running the women's race at a financial loss for the past five years (Gouvenou did mention financial and organisational reasons when explaining the change), there is no reason for the local government to prefer the old arrangement (roads closed for longer, police operations required for longer), and it also requires either more volunteers or volunteers to be available for longer when it's becoming harder to find volunteers pretty much everywhere. That wasn't a sustainable equilibrium.

It's also another warning sign that the ground beneath women's cycling remains very shaky in spite of its growth in the past decade. We already knew the teams were struggling to make ends meet when even some of the bigger ones had to reduce their squad signs to cope with the new WWT regulations, we learned in December that ASO were struggling to make ends meet with women's Roubaix (not as big a deal for ASO, but it should be obvious that smaller organisers have similar issues), and now we're learning that it's having a greater effect on media exposure than already feared. For years, women's cycling was obviously in an upward spiral: I don't think it is anymore, and I also don't feel like it would take that much for things to enter a downward spiral instead.
I also just don't see what's wrong about the women's race being on the same day as the men's race?
 
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I also just don't see what's wrong about the women's race being on the same day as the men's race?

It wouldn't be a problem if they could figure out a way to actually give us more coverage than around 90 minutes.
Maybe even broadcast both races at the same time - yes, I know this would require a lot of cameras - when something happens in the men's race; show that, when something happens in the women's race; show that, utilise split-screens when necessary.
To keep it less confusing, they could use colour-coding like they've done for the last few years when showing the U23 and Junior (men's) races together on YouTube.
BTW, are they still doing that? Or will that be one more thing lost by the decision to move the women's race to Sunday?
 
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It wouldn't be a problem if they could figure out a way to actually give us more coverage than around 90 minutes.
Maybe even broadcast both races at the same time - yes, I know this would require a lot of cameras - when something happens in the men's race; show that, when something happens in the women's race; show that, utilise split-screens when necessary.
To keep it less confusing, they could use colour-coding like they've done for the last few years when showing the U23 and Junior (men's) races together on YouTube.
BTW, are they still doing that? Or will that be one more thing lost by the decision to move the women's race to Sunday?

They will be broadcast on YouTube, co-commentated by Imogen Cotter due to her partnership with Van Rysel.
 
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It wouldn't be a problem if they could figure out a way to actually give us more coverage than around 90 minutes.
Maybe even broadcast both races at the same time - yes, I know this would require a lot of cameras - when something happens in the men's race; show that, when something happens in the women's race; show that, utilise split-screens when necessary.
To keep it less confusing, they could use colour-coding like they've done for the last few years when showing the U23 and Junior (men's) races together on YouTube.
BTW, are they still doing that? Or will that be one more thing lost by the decision to move the women's race to Sunday?
Split screens are basically illegal in cycling for reasons only Vino knows.
 

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