John Degenkolb had a good Vuelta. But when i said i was happy for him, you threw a tantrum that i should not feel happy for him but sorry for him because his victories were "worthless" and because he will get smashed in every sprint next year.El Pistolero said:Who am I denigrating?
More than Ibarguren pays you to fanboy all his clients.El Pistolero said:How much does CQranking pay you guys to keep advertising it by the way?
Dont waste your time on this Belgian idiot. I've fallen into the trap on a few occasions but the guy is like Japanese knot-weed.. persistent,, irritating but impossible to get rid of.Waterloo Sunrise said:More boring nonsense. I've never posted about 'marginal gains'.
But did any of Bauer, beppu or grivko win a medal?El Pistolero said:So you don't have any real arguments lol? Tell me then, what exactly was so impressive in how AK got his bronze medal? He got in the right move at the right time, kudos to him, but so did other lesser riders. Grivko, Jack Bauer and Beppu aren't exactly big climbing talents...
Which clients are you talking about anyway? Samuel Sanchez?
Of course not, they're not sprinters, AK is. Most sprinters foolishly only had attention to Cavendish and the British "dream" team. AK was smart enough to realize he can't win against the likes of Cavendish, Boonen and Greipel, so he went for the break. The Olympics were won and lost by tactics, not so much by physical strength(of course you still need the energy to attack from 8km to go like Vino/Uran did). I can't be the only one that saw this...Bushman said:But did any of Bauer, beppu or grivko win a medal?
exactly. it isn't rocket science what sky is doing. simply they act as any serious multi million dollar company/team shouldmaltiv said:It's very peculiar. Kristoff said that he had no sort of follow-up at BMC, except that they told him to lose weight. They didn't tell him how and they didn't supervise his training program. At Katusha, he says he's getting a lot more support in terms of training, nutrition etc and it has obviously resulted in a great improvement.
When you look at how unprofessional some of those teams are, it's not really surprising that Sky dominate like they do.
yeah by riders knowing what is best for themselves you mean doping (rasmussen, thomas, menchov surly imo etc). it's very mormal that a rider doesn't know all science about nutrition and training methods. a team and a trainer is to guide a rider in that.theyoungest said:Some riders need the team dictating their every move, some riders don't like that. Rabobank has traditionally had riders like Menchov and Freire who belong to the latter category. I think part of the reason for their new management structure is more direct coaching for the riders, because obviously for the new generation of riders the loose approach doesn't work.
compared to his bmc year, he has but never mind. all I can think of at your pathetic posting is this:El Pistolero said:Who am I denigrating?
Alexander Kristoff isn't having a spectacular year, that's all.
You literally always throw back an argument in exactly the same words, aiming to hit the other poster with something (perceived) personal. It's the worst reaction ever, next to you only kids in kindergarten do it when another kids says they're stupid.El Pistolero said:Which clients are you talking about anyway? Samuel Sanchez?
No it's a stupid argument that had nothing to do with the discussion, so I throw it back at him to show how silly he is for trying to make this personal.Arnout said:You literally always throw back an argument in exactly the same words, aiming to hit the other poster with something (perceived) personal. It's the worst reaction ever, next to you only kids in kindergarten do it when another kids says they're stupid.
Oh, you don't know the doping doctor of Quick Step? I suggest doing a google on him.
when hypocrisy searches for a name. you are it.El Pistolero said:No it's a stupid argument that had nothing to do with the discussion, so I throw it back at him to show how silly he is for trying to make this personal.
Glad you noticed it.
Every single team has shady doctors or DS(I suggest doing a google on your beloved riders/teams). What's your point? Go to the clinic or get banned.
El Pistolero said:No it's a stupid argument that had nothing to do with the discussion, so I throw it back at him to show how silly he is for trying to make this personal.
A bronze medal at olympics is simply better than any of these stuff you mentionedEl Pistolero said:Lol, he got in a large breakaway. His bronze medal isn't really impressive. Plus he rode for the Norwegian team, not for Katusha.
Last year they won the Tour de France, Tirreno-Adriatico, Tour de Romandie and Paris-Tours.
This year they won 2 Giro stages and wore the pink jersey for a few days, they won the white jersey in the Tour de France with 2 people in the top 10 and won 3 Vuelta stages. And now they got second in the WC TTT. They got off to a rocky start, but things are looking good now. Alessandro Ballan, Tejay van Gardenen, Philippe Gilbert and Greg van Avermaet will be ready for the Italian classics and Paris-Tours.
If Phil was Dutch you'd be blaming BMC for his abysmal year, but I'm not like that. It's his own fault.
He won that bronze medal for Norway, not Katusha. While a bronze medal at the Olympics is a nice thing to have, it's not because AK was so good that day that he got it. He got away in a large breakaway involving a lot of second/third and even fourth tier riders. He defeated Phinney in a sprint for the medal, I'm sure he could do that last year as well lol. He's one year older and improved a little, but let's not act like he's on some breakthrough year or anything.burning said:A bronze medal at olympics is simply better than any of these stuff you mentioned
And If any other team with huge budget (not OPQS obviously) like BMC showed only these results during a year, you'd be bashing that team to death instead of somewhat praising it. BMC had a really bad season and even if they somehow win WC-Emilia-P-T-Lombardia, BMC's season would be still bad
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