And the sad part is that the players were doping back then, too. I guess Agassi was the pioneer of the "new era", winning the majority of his slams in the second half of his career, at an age where most of his competitors were on the decline.tyson766 said:Who needs a senior tour when you have players well into their 30s consistently winning in a sport where players used to peak at 27-28 and retire at 30-31.
Most blatant dope fest since eastern european athletics in the 70s.
In some regards, yes, Agassi via Gil's secret shakes, was the first to come back with a vengeance as he aged, but I'm guessing Lendl was probably the first male to really enhance his game via ped's. Mere speculation mind you.DanielSong39 said:
Agreed with Lendl but then there's Connors' mid-life renaissance as well. Won 3 majors after it looked like he was tailing off.robow7 said:In some regards, yes, Agassi via Gil's secret shakes, was the first to come back with a vengeance as he aged, but I'm guessing Lendl was probably the first male to really enhance his game via ped's. Mere speculation mind you.DanielSong39 said:
Haas has worked with Healing Hans from at least 2016 onwards (and I reckon before that, too).nayr497 said:I haven't heard of Haas in a long, long time.
The Hitch said:Haha. Federer is ridiculous at 35 and he just lost to Tommy Haas, whos like the Horner of tennis (ok not as good but in tennis 39 is like 49 in cycling)
Karlovic has more or less maximized his career potential. Muller is often seen as an underachiever, but he's played pretty good on grass. I also remember him making the quarters at the US Open years ago and playing Federer pretty tough.Red Rick said:Grass is a surface for old men. Especially men like Karlovic and Muller.
Interesting tidbit in that article about guys in the 80's putting coke in their white wrist bands and a quick snort between points. Had not heard that before. I've never done the stuff but those that have and at some time played tennis at a higher level, would it in your opinion offer any assistance during a match ? Just curious what your thoughts are.Zebadeedee said:Shock! Horror!
Evans gets caught doing what many tennis players routinely do.
IIRC, McEnroe did talk about using cocaine when he was active on the tour.Zebadeedee said:Vitas Gerulaitis - ex world No 3 and a star of the '70s - was a big time cocaine user. His habit dragged his career down and it got even worse when he left the circuit. The FBI were after him at one point. No doubt at all that McEnroe and Borg were using too, being best mates of Vitas. Pity McEnroe doesn't come clean about his usage.
Nadal has been dumped out in the early rounds of wimbledon for at least the past 5 years. Seems like they load him up with everything they have for Roland Garros and after that there isn't enough time for a second cycle or his body doesn't respond the same way as when he was younger.Bwlch y Groes said:Gilles Muller beats Nadal in the longest match of Wimbledon and barely looks tired. Huge upturn in form - never gone past the 3rd round at Wimbledon before this year and now looks like one of the best grass court players in the world. May break into the top 20 after this tournament at this rate, for the first time in his career - at 34!
Her coach Esteban Carril is a complete nobody as well: https://www.orangecoach.com/employers/resume/view/8408-esteban-carrilBullsFan22 said:Johanna Konta, a virtual nobody less than two years ago is now playing like a world beater. British marginal gains in play? Paging Dr. Bonar!!!