Tennis

[kingjr]

So why was he sanctioned?

For his entourage's negligence.

 

[AmRacer]

So you have (independent) expert testimony affirming that the levels detected were consistent with transdermal, inadvertent exposure, and none of them suggested the explanation is somehow inconsistent with the scientific analysis. That, among other things, was enough according to WADA and ITIA burden-of-proof standards, but you arbitrarily decide that standard is insufficient? Fine, but why? What is it about the explanation that seems so incredible that a different standard should be applied?
My point is this: calling Sinner a doper is like calling someone a cheater for accidentally breaking a rule, like a cyclist taking a shortcut without being aware of it. The term thus becomes both inaccurate and defamatory.

Laughable comparison. Sinner got caught and convicted.

 

[kingjr]

Laughable comparison. Sinner got caught and convicted.

Care to explain? My guess is not. You think just confidently saying stuff without backing it up is enough to make it true.

 

[AmRacer]

Care to explain? My guess is not. You think just confidently saying stuff without backing it up is enough to make it true.

There's nothing to explain, it's all out there if you look.

 

[kingjr]

There's nothing to explain, it's all out there if you look.

Sure, and there are alien colonies on the moon as well, I'm sure? It's all out there if you look

You know, every time this discussion happens, I'm getting the feeling I'm the only one in here who did any looking in the first place.

 

[AmRacer]

Sure, and there are alien colonies on the moon as well, I'm sure? It's all out there if you look

Think you must go to Specsavers.

 

[kingjr]

Think you must go to Specsavers.

Tell me, why are you even here? Cause you're not making any effort. In sports, if someone gets paid to throw a match, they still need to turn up. What's your incentive?

 

[Sciatic]

So you have (independent) expert testimony affirming that the levels detected were consistent with transdermal, inadvertent exposure, and none of them suggested the explanation is somehow inconsistent with the scientific analysis. That, among other things, was enough according to WADA and ITIA burden-of-proof standards, but you arbitrarily decide that standard is insufficient? Fine, but why? What is it about the explanation that seems so incredible that a different standard should be applied?
My point is this: calling Sinner a doper is like calling someone a cheater for accidentally breaking a rule, like a cyclist taking a shortcut without being aware of it. The term thus becomes both inaccurate and defamatory.

I’m an Occam’s Razor kind of guy. To me, not to you obviously, the sequence of events that needed to happen to result in contamination is far less likely than using the substance as a performance enhancer in a sport where top pros have been busted even despite lax testing standards. Particularly when any masseuse trainer would know that can’t have any products containing PEDs anywhere near the athlete. So the explanation also requires us to believe in an incredible level of stupidity on the part of the masseuse.

And no the scientific evidence is not showing that this very particular sequence of events would result in the level of substance found in his bloodstream.
But you seem to know that doping was not a reasonable possibility. I will now just take your word for it,

 

[kingjr]

I’m an Occam’s Razor kind of guy. To me, not to you obviously, the sequence of events that needed to happen to result in contamination is far less likely than using the substance as a performance enhancer in a sport where top pros have been busted even despite lax testing standards. Particularly when any masseuse trainer would know that can’t have any products containing PEDs anywhere near the athlete. So the explanation also requires us to believe in an incredible level of stupidity on the part of the masseuse.

And no the scientific evidence is not showing that this very particular sequence of events would result in the level of substance found in his bloodstream.
But you seem to know that doping was not a reasonable possibility. I will now just take your word for it,

So, basically, even though all relevant bodies agree he's not a doper, your gut feeling says otherwise and that makes it OK to publicly label him such as if it were an objective truth?

 

[AmRacer]

Tell me, why are you even here? Cause you're not making any effort. In sports, if someone gets paid to throw a match, they still need to turn up. What's your incentive?

I'm not the one defending a convicted doper.

 

[Sciatic]

So, basically, even though all relevant bodies agree he's not a doper, your gut feeling says otherwise and that makes it OK to publicly label him such as if it were an objective truth?

All relevant bodies decided OJ was innocent. But as I said, I’m just going to take your word for it. You’ll have to be satisfied with that,

 

[kingjr]

All relevant bodies decided OJ was innocent. But as I said, I’m just going to take your word for it. You’ll have to be satisfied with that,

In the criminal case, yes; because of the burden-of-proof standard, ironically. But fair enough.

 

[AmRacer]

View: https://youtu.be/NzCptf2ia5c?feature=shared

 

[BullsFan22]

LOL

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Sinner - well named. Tennis & Wimbledon get the champion they deserve........Got a short ban, just in time for the French Open......laughable.

Good job he isn't a cyclist - he'd still be banned......the double standards stink; as do the non journalism from the tennis media. They're all PR men/ women.

 

[BullsFan22]

Sinner - well named. Tennis & Wimbledon get the champion they deserve........Got a short ban, just in time for the French Open......laughable.

Good job he isn't a cyclist - he'd still be banned......the double standards stink; as do the non journalism from the tennis media. They're all PR men/ women.

Swiatek and Sinner. Exactly what tennis deserves.

 

[Red Rick]

Sinner - well named. Tennis & Wimbledon get the champion they deserve........Got a short ban, just in time for the French Open......laughable.

Good job he isn't a cyclist - he'd still be banned......the double standards stink; as do the non journalism from the tennis media. They're all PR men/ women.

Lol cycling is trying even less to catch the big boys nowadays.

In tennis they sometimes accidentally catch them because they're just worse at their glowing times.

 

[BullsFan22]

The Tall Tale of Jannik Sinner

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[solo80k]

Swiatek and Sinner. Exactly what tennis deserves.

I loved 6:0, 6:0 in the ladies' final. So unbelievable...

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I loved 6:0, 6:0 in the ladies' final. So unbelievable...

Well, what do you believe? That she spiked her opponent‘s drink?

 

[Red Rick]

Tara Moore banned 4 years.

Pretty sure in her case it's Sinner's lawyer that was the prosecutor.

Funny *** going on in the tennis.

 

[Red Rick]

Sinner rehiring the physio he fired over his doping ban is an Armstrong level of flexing your immunity if I ever saw one.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Sinner rehiring the physio he fired over his doping ban is an Armstrong level of flexing your immunity if I ever saw one.

You just know that during the next few days Italian media will run a story about how much of a big heart the Monaco red fox has and how great it is that he's giving him a second chance.

 

[Red Rick]

You just know that during the next few days Italian media will run a story about how much of a big heart the Monaco red fox has and how great it is that he's giving him a second chance.

I think I just puked in my mouth a little.