Tennis

[Unchained]

You sound like a Lance apologist

I certainly think that Armstrong deserves punishment for crimes and other offenses he committed. Would suggest that you try and make a map that would interconnect Williams ( Williams sisters) with Armstrong on his transgressions. Both athletes reached the highest level of their sports..both had major revenue streams through endorsement loot..some of the same companies!! But as far as ignoring some major differences, caught, convicted, admitted and was punished for numerous crimes, criminal and civil, and the other compared athlete, Williams who didn't do any of that. There really is one reality, regardless of current calamity.. Armstrong, accused, tried, punished, and contrite for his actions.
Williams just won until body broke and biological clock was running towards alarm going off. Nobody could make an serious comparison, starting using court as a key word, Armstrong couldn't get out of court, Williams can come and go as she pleased.

 

[Sciatic]

No weed or weeds for me!! Because of body metamorphosis during puberty, she was immediately accused of doping as a child. She also had out of the ordinary accomplishments as a youngster.
Her family and management were constantly complaining about what they saw as excessive testing. She later would suggest that she was treated, reprimanded differently because of her race. They also used very veiled language about the motivation behind multiple tests per months for almost 30 years ( according to Williams her career started 1995-2022) Certainly not much if any details about her getting tested pre 95. Not much mention of it in the 7 or 8 books written about or by her. She has obviously done hundreds of hours of video interviews and doesn't dwell on it.
Again Bigfoot, Lochness monster, Chuppacabra tooth fairy, Santa, balanced budget, and Williams doping positives ..all things to believe in. Her training and physical preparation, divine gifts have to at least have to factor into an educated guess. In other female sports being described as " big boned" is pejorative.. In her case her constant training to refine her muscle mass for maximum efficiency, effectiveness was truly phenomenal!! I remember watching a post match video analysis of her at French Open or tournament in Switzerland or US open and she took 2,3 steps less than other players to cover lateral distances of the baseline. Other pro athlete friends of hers commented that she did as much running and agility drills as pro mens basketball and football players.

I said nothing about body composition—I was pointing out how her performance level far, far outdistanced her opponents, who in general I regard as probable of doping.

 

[Unchained]

I said nothing about body composition—I was pointing out how her performance level far, far outdistanced her opponents, who in general I regard as probable of doping.

Oh I got what you said, her performance(s) are suspect in your opinion. Got that part, and my other back and forth about Armstrong.. It's often best to offer some proof, test failures, court hearings or deposition here or there. It's just to cheap and easy to say I know she doped and cheated and the proof is.. Just because

 

[Sciatic]

Oh I got what you said, her performance(s) are suspect in your opinion. Got that part, and my other back and forth about Armstrong.. It's often best to offer some proof, test failures, court hearings or deposition here or there. It's just to cheap and easy to say I know she doped and cheated and the proof is.. Just because

That’s what you think then that’s what you think. There are limits to outliers in human performance when one athlete so superior to others, who I assume a percentage of are doping, just on physical speed, strength, etc But that’s just my opinion, true. How is you’re not the one taking the “cheap and easy” path by agreeing with the 99% of tennis fans and 99.999 % of Americans who think she is clean?

 

[BullsFan22]

That’s what you think then that’s what you think. There are limits to outliers in human performance when one athlete so superior to others, who I assume a percentage of are doping, just on physical speed, strength, etc But that’s just my opinion, true. How is you’re not the one taking the “cheap and easy” path by agreeing with the 99% of tennis fans and 99.999 % of Americans who think she is clean?

Oh i am pretty sure the number is far less than 99%

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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