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Nadal is clearly on the juice. And yep, so is that dopey doper Ortiz. Can't stand how people conveniently look past doping in the sports they like, but rail against sports they don't even care about, like cycling.

Are you referring to Big Pappi David Ortiz?
If so, for comedic purposes, go read the Ortiz article in the Player's Tribune, a magazine created by good ol' Jete's after he retired from the sport of baseball.
Ortiz goes on and on about being tested more than anyone else, etc etc. and so on and so forth and more of the same.
But unless you enjoy being the target of a torrent of vitriolic comments that include but aren't limited to threats on your person and strong suggestions that maybe you don't belong in this world, don't you dare go on a baseball message board and laugh at the suggestion that a) Ortiz actually wrote the article; or b) he is telling the truth.
 
What actually happened to del Porto. At 20 he was on the verge of becoming the best player in the world. Since then he seems to have had a none stop wrist injury for 5 years with the exception of a brief restbite when he managed to get very close to the top again.
 
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What actually happened to del Porto. At 20 he was on the verge of becoming the best player in the world. Since then he seems to have had a none stop wrist injury for 5 years with the exception of a brief restbite when he managed to get very close to the top again.
good question.
but you;ll agree, with his body, 2 meters tall, the way he was mixing it up with more lightfooted guys like federer and djoko, hanging on in five setters even, that was pretty unreal, so not really surprised to see him burn out early. With a bit less doping he could probably still be a decent top 50 player. But cortisone eats you up.

remember that BBC interview, after he'd come back to win a tough five setter in spite of being 2-1 down and with a mid-match injury. He said his coach had given him "some magic pill" during the injury time-out and everybody in the studio (first and foremost Sue Baker) just laughed out loud.
 
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He is falling apart now. When you enhance your body above what it is capable of all the time, you will break down. It must be a constant battle...juice up to become superman, but the same juice kills your body over the long term
 
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Del Potro's forehand was ferocious and extremely wrist taxing. Still, it's surprising how he just vanished.

Nadal with yet another early Wimbledon exit against some random nobody. 2 time champion, 5 time finalist, less than 30 years old. His prospects of winning another GS aren't good at all. Maybe one more French, but I can't see even that happening. To think that he almost won the AO in 2014.
 
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Nadal's calves look like some cyclists. ;)

His serve speed was way down today (112 mph).

I think Uncle Toni "prepares" Rafa differently for the second week, where he would face better competition.
Nadal does better against Murray/Federer/Djokovic than he does against low ranked nobodies. This is the fourth year in a row that Nadal has lost to a player ranked outside of the top 100 at Wimbledon.
 
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SeriousSam said:
Del Potro's forehand was ferocious and extremely wrist taxing. Still, it's surprising how he just vanished.
Its his none forehand wrist. At least now, don't know about before, though if he has had 2 seperate wrist injuries that have kept him out for 4 years while no other major player has had one, that is some unlucky genes or something.

Also on this point, I remember a rumour after Fed won his first Wimb in 03 that he would only survive 7 years in the sport or something since his forehand was so taxing on the wrist.

Nadal with yet another early Wimbledon exit against some random nobody. 2 time champion, 5 time finalist, less than 30 years old. His prospects of winning another GS aren't good at all. Maybe one more French, but I can't see even that happening. To think that he almost won the AO in 2014.
To think he actually destroyed robo Djokovic in the US Open less than 2 years ago. Novak couldn't even take it to 5.

IamIronMan said:
He is falling apart now. When you enhance your body above what it is capable of all the time, you will break down. It must be a constant battle...juice up to become superman, but the same juice kills your body over the long term
I don't fully agree. Some people can take it, some people can't. Its the luck of the genes.
Armstrong for example could. Other tennis players - including Fed and Djoker seem to be able to. Fed has the record for most consecutive grand slams played and that's despite getting to the 2nd week in pretty much every last one.
 
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His serve speed was way down today (112 mph).

I think Uncle Toni "prepares" Rafa differently for the second week, where he would face better competition.
Nadal does better against Murray/Federer/Djokovic than he does against low ranked nobodies. This is the fourth year in a row that Nadal has lost to a player ranked outside of the top 100 at Wimbledon.

speed of serve is more about tactics. he could easily flatten it out and take a hard flat serve into hardcourt season too, and have his first serve about 208, and his second about 188, but he will not win as easily.

his points are played by getting the ball into the court, and grinding it out, from the back of the court, where he is with Fed and Sampras the most successful of all time. Why bother flattening it out for speed, when it would not win you more tourneys or more points. Because he would have to serve more doubles, and not get his first serve into the rally with such consistency. He has his tactics dialled in. His camp and Rafa are not the most successful of all time for being stupid.
 
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nayr497 said:
Nadal is clearly on the juice. And yep, so is that dopey doper Ortiz. Can't stand how people conveniently look past doping in the sports they like, but rail against sports they don't even care about, like cycling.

Are you referring to Big Pappi David Ortiz?
If so, for comedic purposes, go read the Ortiz article in the Player's Tribune, a magazine created by good ol' Jete's after he retired from the sport of baseball.
Ortiz goes on and on about being tested more than anyone else, etc etc. and so on and so forth and more of the same.
But unless you enjoy being the target of a torrent of vitriolic comments that include but aren't limited to threats on your person and strong suggestions that maybe you don't belong in this world, don't you dare go on a baseball message board and laugh at the suggestion that a) Ortiz actually wrote the article; or b) he is telling the truth.

Yep, was talking about him. I've always found baseball to be terribly boring, would be fun to stir up some steroids talk.
 
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SeriousSam said:
Del Potro's forehand was ferocious and extremely wrist taxing. Still, it's surprising how he just vanished.
Its his none forehand wrist. At least now, don't know about before, though if he has had 2 seperate wrist injuries that have kept him out for 4 years while no other major player has had one, that is some unlucky genes or something.

Also on this point, I remember a rumour after Fed won his first Wimb in 03 that he would only survive 7 years in the sport or something since his forehand was so taxing on the wrist.

Nadal with yet another early Wimbledon exit against some random nobody. 2 time champion, 5 time finalist, less than 30 years old. His prospects of winning another GS aren't good at all. Maybe one more French, but I can't see even that happening. To think that he almost won the AO in 2014.
To think he actually destroyed robo Djokovic in the US Open less than 2 years ago. Novak couldn't even take it to 5.

IamIronMan said:
He is falling apart now. When you enhance your body above what it is capable of all the time, you will break down. It must be a constant battle...juice up to become superman, but the same juice kills your body over the long term
I don't fully agree. Some people can take it, some people can't. Its the luck of the genes.
Armstrong for example could. Other tennis players - including Fed and Djoker seem to be able to. Fed has the record for most consecutive grand slams played and that's despite getting to the 2nd week in pretty much every last one.

Del Potro's first wrist injury was with his forehand wrist. It's not all that surprising considering his swing, grip, and power he hit the ball with.

RE: Rafa. His body has given in and he can't sustain the physical intensity that he used to. Even in his "easy" matches at his peak, they were still often a grind. Fed & Djokovic can both win with ease and put little pressure on their bodies. Djokovic is great at grinding victories against top players in the second week of slams though. Federer was never really good at the grind.