Tennis

[sniper]

Almost time for the freak show!

I hope djoker,
but i fear nadal with an easy win.
that back injury is really troubling him

 

[infeXio]

Nadal's playing so bad lol

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

This match is strange, these two look vaguely human at times.

 

[roundabout]

Yeah, 5 minutes ago Djokovic almost looked normal

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

yet most of the time their strikes seem like those of bionic supermen, and especially the ground they can cover and keep covering is unreal

 

[Flamin]

As well, Nadal has his "in-year" ups and downs. He typically plays much better in the late spring, and through the summer (when 3 of the 4 GSs are played), than he plays in the fall, and winter (where only one GS is played). Amazing how he can "plan" his peaks and valleys (much like Armstrong always "planned" to peak at the TDF). No "cycling" here.

Amazingly, his fans are not the least bit suspicious, and are getting bolder, and bolder with their trash talk, insulting the other players.

Nadal is an even more brazen doper, than Lance Armstrong was, in my opinion, yet tennis looks the other way. Like Armstrong, someone outside of his sport will have to take him down.

Lol at comparing tennis with cycling. That's beyond ridiculous

 

[Bicycle]

Lol at comparing tennis with cycling. That's beyond ridiculous

Yes Cycling's testing is far more rigorous than tennis.

Interesting to see Nadal bomb out early at Queens. Back to Majorca to "rest".

 

[hondated]

Yes Cycling's testing is far more rigorous than tennis.

Interesting to see Nadal bomb out early at Queens. Back to Majorca to "rest".

Yes interesting point. I just wished that I was an investigative journalist.

 

[sniper]

from one of the froome threads.

From 2010 Tennis Has a Steroid Problem



http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/bathroom-breaks.html

Venus Inhales

This is a screen shot from Venus' first AO match (at 3:2, first set) where she unsuccessfully tries to hide the use of her inhaler behind a towel. My source (Thanks Superbratwurst) tells me that she can be seen using the inhaler also at 1:2 and 6:3 of the first set. I can only assume that her claimed "condition" is asthma and that this is a Salbutamol inhaler. That is at least three instances of inhaler use in just the first set. Now, the standard dose of such inhalers is 2 puffs every 4 hours. Previously, players who had an exemption for this drug had to keep under a particular threshold level. I don't know whether that is still the case, but her rate of inhaler use would likely put her far over that limit by the end of the match even if she was only taking one puff at a time, and there is no reason to assume even that.

Update: Apparently there is an asthma epidemic in tennis

http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/venus-inhales.html

great find.
she's hardly trying to hide it, though, is she.
everything goes in tennis.

(Thanks Superbratwurst)

 

[Andynonomous]

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[roundabout]

how old is he in the first pic, 16?

 

[Andynonomous]

how old is he in the first pic, 16?

Why, are you going to argue that he hadn't hit puberty yet ?

 

[infeXio]

Are you actually saying that such transformation can't be done through regular bulking? If so, oh dear

 

[sniper]

Are you actually saying that such transformation can't be done through regular bulking? If so, oh dear

of course, but these guys (nadal murray) have on several occasions stated that they don't do regular bulking.
also, if you'd be bulking up in the gym, that would normally be at the expense of speed and agility. not with these guys though. whilst growing muscles, they gain speed and agility.

 

[infeXio]

of course, but these guys (nadal murray) have on several occasions stated that they don't do regular bulking.
also, if you'd be bulking up in the gym, that would normally be at the expense of speed and agility. not with these guys though. whilst growing muscles, they gain speed and agility.

Granted, but I guess it all comes down to the interpretation of bulking and just doing the regular core training workouts. I don't dismiss the doping premise per se, but I simply cannot follow the logic that just because they've managed to get somewhat bulky (though they just look fit IMO), they shouldn't be able to boost stamina and agility along with this. (The extent to which this stamina goes is another matter)..

But hey.. I might just be naive.

 

[sniper]

Granted, but I guess it all comes down to the interpretation of bulking and just doing the regular core training workouts. I don't dismiss the doping premise per se, but I simply cannot follow the logic that just because they've managed to get somewhat bulky (though they just look fit IMO), they shouldn't be able to boost stamina and agility along with this. (The extent to which this stamina goes is another matter)..

But hey.. I might just be naive.

i'd agree nadal and murray are not freakishly bulky.

and to be sure, guys like djokovic and federer have come long ways without being particularly bulky.

i do find the combination of physical strength and extreme agility + stamina, as displayed by nadal/murray c.s. (and also various soccer players, ronaldo being an extreme example), to be highly suspect.

 

[blackcat]

you can tell they have not got mass thru free weights exercises in the gym, or even machines in the gym.

but, have a look at the difference in the mass and quality of the muscle, not just in the arms, but the torso, compared to edberg and wilander. or the 70s player they called "the bull" "ilie nastase" or even sampras.

i have not even started with skinnies like mcenroe or borg

nastase. compare quality of the muscle

 

[robow7]

No, you won't see those biceps that Nadal has on almost any player before him. Take a look at Laver's left arm and it was extremely well developed vs. his right arm but that was about it. And those guys were swinging very heavy wood racquets back in the day. Federer's physique is much more typical of previous generations of tennis players. I'm amazed his right forearm is not larger, especially with a one handed backhand.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Round 1 exit:

 

[sniper]

nice contrast between stosur's and federer's arms.

will never claim federer's been clean, but at least he never made it too obvious.

 

[SundayRider]

No, you won't see those biceps that Nadal has on almost any player before him. Take a look at Laver's left arm and it was extremely well developed vs. his right arm but that was about it. And those guys were swinging very heavy wood racquets back in the day. Federer's physique is much more typical of previous generations of tennis players. I'm amazed his right forearm is not larger, especially with a one handed backhand.

Federer has a very 'average guy who works out a bit' sort of physique.

 

[blackcat]

nice contrast between stosur's and federer's arms.

will never claim federer's been clean, but at least he never made it too obvious.

this. this.

atleast Fed looks like Sampras, with a little more muscle on his torso, yeah, 2lbs more. a little. and a little more on his legs. but basically, like Pistol Pete. Very natural physique.

what were Sampras and Fed? 6'1" 170lbs? mostly in their legs and chest hair.

 

[Bicycle]

Nadal making hard work of his opening match at Wimbledon. IMO this is indicative of his strategy whereby he aims to peak at the final match - if he's still around at the end of next week he'll be unstoppable.

This leaves him vulnerable in the first week and he's lost to complete nobodies the last couple of years. Of course the media excuse for this is that "Rafa's having trouble adjusting to grass". This being the twice champion.

 

[thrawn]

Nadal making hard work of his opening match at Wimbledon. IMO this is indicative of his strategy whereby he aims to peak at the final match - if he's still around at the end of next week he'll be unstoppable.

This leaves him vulnerable in the first week and he's lost to complete nobodies the last couple of years. Of course the media excuse for this is that "Rafa's having trouble adjusting to grass". This being the twice champion.

I suspect so. I think with Wimbledon being so close to the final of the French, he is at his most vulnerable early on there as there isn't a lot of time to cycle the blood out & in.

 

[The Hitch]

Its notable who Nadal is playing.
Klizan.

The player who a few years ago hinted he thought Nadal was doping

http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis...enskeho-tenisty-klizana-nadal-bere-drogy.html

Nadal making hard work of his opening match at Wimbledon. IMO this is indicative of his strategy whereby he aims to peak at the final match - if he's still around at the end of next week he'll be unstoppable.

This leaves him vulnerable in the first week and he's lost to complete nobodies the last couple of years. Of course the media excuse for this is that "Rafa's having trouble adjusting to grass". This being the twice champion.

Its a very valid excuse though.

Grass is totally different, even today when there isn't such a big difference.

Its not just at wimbledon. 2 weeks ago he lost his opening game in Halle. This was 2 days after he wont he French.Its not like he lost all his power in those 2 days.

I really doubt the reasons Nadal plays crap in early rounds is because he's not doping. The players there are so much worse than what he beats later in the competition.

It would also fail to explain why at the French he finds early rounds so easy.