I disagree.benpounder said:I found Col de la Madeleine from the south more difficult than Telegraphe/Galibier
Sure the middle part of Madeleine is hard but it's in reasonable altitude opposed to that final km after the tunnel on Galibier.
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I disagree.benpounder said:I found Col de la Madeleine from the south more difficult than Telegraphe/Galibier
The Hitch said:1 Zoncolan
2 Angliru
3 Finnestre
4 Mortirolo
5 Stelvio
6 Fauniera
7 Agnello
8 Ventoux
9 Kronplatz
10 Galibier.
Descender said:You can. There is another road.
Cobblestoned said:Yes. But better to change on MTBs for that.
Cobblestoned said:What are your besttimes and thresholds ?
The hitch seems to be very experienced when it comes to (Italian) mountains.
The Hitch said:I dont know that you can descent Alpe without starting at the top of it / turning back into everyone.
Finnestre has several 10+ grades and rarely goes under 8. Consider that in the Tour they talk about how Plateau and Alpe have "horrid" 9%+ grades, and Finnestre goes up to 14% (briefly yes), and goes on for ever and ever.
+ theres some bad turns and its gravel.
The Hitch said:I didnt see the bit in the thread where it said one had to climb all mountains in order to have an opinion.
Either show me that bit or shut up.
simoni said:Nothing wrong with the Sarenne road overall apart from the drainage troughs (which could be dealt with for a tour if necessary). They descend similar roads in the Pyrenees.
Lupetto said:In 1971.
Ruby United said:What's the steepest average per cent for a climb in pro racing history
And what's the steepest per cent a climb has reached at one point.
Ryo Hazuki said:
this is the mother of qall climbs. so hard that the uci forbids the colombian federatrion to ever use rhis climb again in their race....
del1962 said:Does anyone know the answer to these
Which climb used has the longest stretch greater than 10%?
Which climb used has the longest stretch greater than 15%?
Which climb used has the longest stretch greater than 20%?
Krzysztof_O said:Some time ago I calculated climbs difficulty base on this:
FIETS-index = [H^2 / D*10] + (T - 1000):1000
Where H is height difference in meters, D is distance in meters and T is altitude in meters. However I didn't calculate it for the whole climb but divided it into several sections (each usually 1-km long) in order to take into account gradient variations, steep fragments etc. For each section I calculated formula H^2/D*10 and sumed all these results. If the was a descent section then I changed sign of the expression (minus points for descents). At the end expression (T - 1000):1000 was also added. Here are the results:
1. Finestre 16.7
2. Zoncolan 16.6
3. Grossglockner-Hochtor 16.5
4. Stelvio (from Prato) 16.4
*Galibier+Telegraphe 16.3
5. Fauniera 15.7
*Forcola di Livigno 15.6
6. Angliru 15.1
7. Mortirolo 15
*Sierra Nevada + Monachil 14.6
8. Esischie (part of Fauniera) 14.4
9. Manghen 14.3
10. Mt Ventoux 14.1
Agnello 14.1
Croix-de-Fer (from Le Chambre via Glandon) 13.9
Monte Grappa 13.9
Stelvio (from Bormio) 13.8
Bonette (from S. Etienne) 13.2
...
Madeleine 12.9
Gavia 12.9
...
Giau 12.0
Tourmalet 11.9
...
Bola del Mundo 11.7
...
Plateau de Beille 11.1
...
Alpe d' Huez 9.9
Climbs marked* can be considered two separate climbs because of flat or descent sections.
One can see that in this ranking two type of climbs dominate: leg-breakers with incredible gradients (i.e. Zoncolan, Angliru and Mortirolo) and quite steep giants with enormous height difference (i.e. Finestre, Hochtor, Stelvio, Fauniera). In this rank Finestre edges Zoncolan, Grossglockner and Stelvio but which one is absolutely hardest - each of them has their arguments as well as Angliru, Mortirolo and Fauniera. It's possible I omitted some climbs in calculations i.e. Blockhaus could be also in TOP10 but I am not sure at what altitude was its highest finish.
It is easily seen that monster climbs dominate in Giro. I just hope that Finestre will be used more often as it's absolutely epic. I could be even used in TdF (but I think it's not in their style ). Fauniera climb is also missed during last decade. Some Giro visit on Rettenbachferner or highest Glossglockner sections would also be nice.
Ruby United said:I'm trying to look for answers to these. At the moment I'm not getting anywhere. Best I have so far is 9k at 18 pcent
Red Rick said:Mauna Kea is way harder
Ruby United said:No its not. This is longer and the first 40k of Mauna kea are at less than 7/per cent.
Edit: meant 7 per cent
Ruby United said:No its not. This is longer and the first 40k of Mauna kea are at less than 7/per cent.
Edit: meant 7 per cent