The 2012 CQ Ranking Manager Game

[Hugo Koblet]

Does Pozzato score any points this year?

Yes. The only way a rider gets his points taken away is if CQranking removes his results, and that only happens if he gets his results stripped which Pozzato hasn't had.

 

[Netserk]

Yes. The only way a rider gets his points taken away is if CQranking removes his results, and that only happens if he gets his results stripped which Pozzato hasn't had.

Thanks. What will he cost next year?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Thanks. What will he cost next year?

Since it was only 2012 that was affecteed by his doping case, his value should be his 2011 score, but since he scored more in 2012 than in 2011 it will probably be his 2012 score, 460.

I haven't fully decided on this matter yet, though. I'll create an evaluation thread one of these days

 

[Netserk]

Since it was only 2012 that was affecteed by his doping case, his value should be his 2011 score, but since he scored more in 2012 than in 2011 it will probably be his 2012 score, 460.

I haven't fully decided on this matter yet, though. I'll create an evaluation thread one of these days

So it's a little like with Costa this year? But you will change practice?

I'm pretty conservative on these things, so IMO it would be great with total consistency regarding the rules, though I can understand a need for optimizing, if people feel like some of the rules are illogical.

 

[the asian]

Thanks. What will he cost next year?

I assume it would be the 2012 points.

 

[the asian]

Since it was only 2012 that was affecteed by his doping case, his value should be his 2011 score, but since he scored more in 2012 than in 2011 it will probably be his 2012 score, 460.

I haven't fully decided on this matter yet, though. I'll create an evaluation thread one of these days

Taking his 2012 score would be fair IMO.

 

[Netserk]

Taking his 2012 score would be fair IMO.

But inconsistent with prior ruling (Costa)

Therefore it's a dilemma.

 

[CQmanager]

Here's the optimal team so far, as usual computed via integer programming:

Rider 2012 Pts 2011 Pts % Profit
1 WIGGINS Bradley 2687 1322 203
2 BOONEN Tom 2202 502 439
3 DEGENKOLB John 1597 711 225
4 COSTA Rui Alberto Faria 1412 413 342
5 HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis 1136 190 598
6 ROGERS Michael 1074 137 784
7 VAN GARDEREN Tejay 1062 509 209
8 MOSER Moreno 1036 78 1328
9 SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 1034 439 236
10 KRISTOFF Alexander 934 446 209
11 TERPSTRA Niki 890 401 222
12 DEMARE Arnaud 845 148 571
13 BOUHANNI Nacer 845 136 621
14 NORDHAUG Lars Petter 827 180 459
15 PHINNEY Taylor 809 344 235
16 QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 707 60 1178
17 DURBRIDGE Luke 693 65 1066
18 TALANSKY Andrew 683 229 298
19 PORTE Richie 680 261 261
20 DI LUCA Danilo 666 232 287
21 TIERNAN-LOCKE Jonathan 591 82 721
22 TURGOT Sebastien 522 150 348
23 FIRSANOV Sergey 520 150 347
24 RABOTTINI Matteo 478 40 1195
25 IGLINSKIY Maxim 464 82 566
26 REDA Francesco 411 66 623
27 KUMP Marko 377 10 3770
28 PALINI Andrea 349 14 2493
29 SLAGTER Tom Jelte 329 41 802
30 BOIVIN Guillaume 306 14 2186
31 SEREBRYAKOV Alexander 300 26 1154
32 DENNIS Rohan 271 10 2710
33 POULHIES Stephane 239 0 -
TOTAL 26976 7488 360

Not sure if your calculations are correct because if I do the "Green Team" where every rider at least doubled its points from last year I do get 25467 points with 7281 buying cost. I'm sure I can swap some of my riders and get more points??? .... Too lazy to worry about it

The Green Team

BOONEN Tom 502 2202
DEGENKOLB John 711 1597
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria 664 1412
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis 190 1136
ROGERS Michael 137 1074
MOSER Moreno 78 1036
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 439 1034
TERPSTRA Niki 401 890
BOUHANNI Nacer 136 845
DEMARE Arnaud 148 845
NORDHAUG Lars Petter 180 827
PHINNEY Taylor 344 809
NIZZOLO Giacomo 348 751
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 60 707
DURBRIDGE Luke 65 693
TALANSKY Andrew 229 683
PORTE Richie 261 680
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 291 669
DI LUCA Danilo 232 666
TIERNAN-LOCKE Jonathan 82 591
PELLIZOTTI Franco 0 585
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas 219 532
TURGOT Sébastien 150 522
FIRSANOV Sergey 150 520
VELITS Peter 205 519
ROY Jérémy 199 515
DYACHENKO Alexsandr 181 484
RABOTTINI Matteo 40 478
IGLINSKIY Maxim 82 459
GASPAROTTO Enrico 194 458
DAVIS Allan 118 423
BARTA Jan 179 414
REDA Francesco 66 411

COST / PROFIT

7281 / 25467

CQM

 

[Hugo Koblet]

But inconsistent with prior ruling (Costa)

Therefore it's a dilemma.

Agree, but I think the "Costa case" was a mistake..

 

[Netserk]

Agree, but I think the "Costa case" was a mistake..

Fair enough. It is you after all who decides

 

[greenedge]

Porte finished 8 minutes down on Martin and did not even get the 5 cq points. However Basso, Majka and Clarke all got me some from Japan.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Is a thread going to be made for next year's game Hugo?

 

[shalgo]

Apologies if I am not working with a completely up-to-date version of the spreadsheet, but here are the top standings after the latest CQ update:

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

Top 30 with no Boonen or Rogers. I'll take that.

 

[gustienordic]

Top 30 with no Boonen or Rogers. I'll take that.

30th without Boonen & with some pretty bad picks!

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Is a thread going to be made for next year's game Hugo?

Yes of course. Sorry, I've just been awefully busy the last few weeks, but I'll create an evaluation thread sometime soon and then a thread for the 2013 edition sometime in November.

 

[gustienordic]

Longlist keeps growing I'm up to 74 names

 

[LaFlorecita]

Longlist keeps growing I'm up to 74 names

I already have a team of 32 riders ready, will probably make some adjustments though

 

[Afrank]

I had my team all ready as well, until Majka had to go and get 7th in Beijing and 3rd in the Japan Cup! Now I'll have to go over it again and switch a bunch of riders around.

oh well, guess that's what I get for setting up my team before the seasons had officially ended .

 

[The Hitch]

Apologies if I am not working with a completely up-to-date version of the spreadsheet, but here are the top standings after the latest CQ update:

Just missed on getting back to back top 10's

I wonder what combined 2011 and 2012 looks like. I see ws in top 20 so i think he could lead that.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Yes of course. Sorry, I've just been awefully busy the last few weeks, but I'll create an evaluation thread sometime soon and then a thread for the 2013 edition sometime in November.

NO problem. Don't apologise for being busy

 

[the asian]

When do we have the final update and bring the 2012 game to an end?

Picking next years team is a nightmare.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

When do we have the final update and bring the 2012 game to an end?

Picking next years team is a nightmare.

The last race will be Tour of Taihu Lake which ends on November 8.

 

[Ferminal]

WOW Ludvigsson woke up... almost makes me want to take him again next season.


...not.

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

So 7th (don't think mc_mountain will take back 500 odd points in the remaining races) after being in the top 10 since February without interruption and leading briefly after the Tour de France, really happy with the way my team performed this year.
I'm going to look for my 2013 team as of now but I must say that I am not really inspired compared to last year after a quick first scan of cqranking. But first a review of my 2012 team.
Boonen, Rogers, Luis Leon Sanchez were all great improvers as expected. Démare, Durbrirdge, Quintana, Bouhanni and Moser were my golden youngsters. Nibali, Spilak, Iglinkskiy and Voigt did very well. Breschel, Velits were decent as were Felline, Dumoulin, Kreuziger, Pozzato, Fenn and Bardet. Sicard, Lloyd and Vaugrenard should/could have done better but cost nothing so not a big loss. Elissonde, Larsson, Van der Sande, Le Bon and Rolland were only slightly better than last year but are still way better than Pinot (who I will probably pick for a third straight year), Appolonio, Anton, Masskant (how did he manage to score even less than in 2011?) and Offredo (worst pick of the game probably). All in all my best pick was probably Bouhanni because only one other person took him (compared to the more obvious Boonen, Rogers) and yet he is the green team.