The 2013 CQ Ranking Manager Game

[mc_mountain]

Oh, boo-hoo. Your unique picks aren't going to win you the game. A huge stroke of luck with getting the combination of as many of the best value for return riders will.

Any*****s, almost finalised my team. I've got 33 riders but 100-odd points to spare, so going to try and figure out who's the best to upgrade.

to play devil's advocate you could, however, lose to someone whose lucky combination includes a couple of riders they'd otherwise forgotten about, until they were hinted at or discussed. I know from my own experience that I wasn't intending to include a certain Slovenian rider last year until I saw people listing the nationalities of their teams.

Also discussion of a rider potentially means that rider is selected artificially more than might otherwise be the case, giving them more significance in the game than might otherwise be the case.

I understand there are others who think its not about finding the bargains but about picking the right bargains.

PS you gonna play the youth CQ game on velorooms?

 

[King Of The Wolds]

10 UK
6 Australia
4 France
3 USA
2 Italy
2 Belgium
1 Switzerland
1 Luxembourg
1 Spain
1 Brazil
1 Denmark
1 Norway

Here's a collective palmares...

5 Olympic Golds
24 Rainbow Bands (all at senior level)
9 Monuments
9 Other genuine Classics
1 TdF win
1 TdF green jersey
46 TdF stage wins
13 Giro stage wins
14 Vuelta stage wins

 

[taiwan]

6 Italian, 5 Australian, 4 French, 4 Spanish, 3 Belgian, 1 each from 11 other countries.

 

[GP Blanco]

6 Dutchmen, 4 Colombians, 3 Australians, 3 Italians, 3 Belgians, 2 Britons, 2 Frenchmen, 2 Norwegians, 2 Americans, 1 Slovenian, 1 Czech, 1 Luxembourger, 1 from Hong Kong and 1 Venezuelan.

 

[Tuarts]

to play devil's advocate you could, however, lose to someone whose lucky combination includes a couple of riders they'd otherwise forgotten about, until they were hinted at or discussed. I know from my own experience that I wasn't intending to include a certain Slovenian rider last year until I saw people listing the nationalities of their teams.

Also discussion of a rider potentially means that rider is selected artificially more than might otherwise be the case, giving them more significance in the game than might otherwise be the case.

I understand there are others who think its not about finding the bargains but about picking the right bargains.

PS you gonna play the youth CQ game on velorooms?

I think the opposite is true, the more you talk about a rider the less significance he has as a variable. You still have to pick 32 other riders as well and someone just copypasta'ing others suggestions is already behind the eight ball and wont win. Those that do the research and pick the right 20-30 will win. With a lot of luck of course.

Oh, I don't know about any games elsewhere, I haven't been there in a long time. Only around here because I remembered this.

 

[will10]

I think the opposite is true, the more you talk about a rider the less significance he has as a variable. You still have to pick 32 other riders as well and someone just copypasta'ing others suggestions is already behind the eight ball and wont win. Those that do the research and pick the right 20-30 will win. With a lot of luck of course.

Oh, I don't know about any games elsewhere, I haven't been there in a long time. Only around here because I remembered this.

The more teams that look the same, the less interesting it is for me. With 33 riders on a team it's very unlikely that anyone will have identical teams but when a name like Rafael Valls gets hyped on this thread last year and ends up in 50 odd teams, I think that's daft (although not as daft as those who picked him )

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

The more teams that look the same, the less interesting it is for me. With 33 riders on a team it's very unlikely that anyone will have identical teams but when a name like Rafael Valls gets hyped on this thread last year and ends up in 50 odd teams, I think that's daft (although not as daft as those who picked him )

Yeah. I'd be for relaxing the 33 rider limit for this reason. Larger teams would be more diverse than they are now, despite those over hyped riders.

 

[Tuarts]

It doesn't matter if you talk about every rider under the sun, you're not going to get 100 teams picking the same 30 riders. And read the rest of my post, it directly responds to what you said about any RV wagoning.

 

[Ferminal]

I think Murilo Fischer will have a great season.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Ok LAST version of my team

2 eyetalians, a colombian and a frenchie OUT

and 2 americans, an aussie and a czech IN

 

[Hugo Koblet]

The "Create your team" file has now been updated for the last time as cqranking.com has uploaded the final values. You can find the spreadsheet at http://cqmanager.net/download/ under the name "Create your team".

Remember also that the deadline is in 3 days on January 5.

We now have 75 participating teams. Later today I will go through all of them to see if any team is above the 7500 limit.

 

[LaFlorecita]

The "Create your team" file has now been updated for the last time as cqranking.com has uploaded the final values. You can find the spreadsheet at http://cqmanager.net/download/ under the name "Create your team".

Remember also that the deadline is in 3 days on January 5.

We now have 75 participating teams. Later today I will go through all of them to see if any team is above the 7500 limit.

I will have to change my team again

because Alex Rasmussen is DQ'ed

 

[mc_mountain]

CQranking will change some of their points scoring for 2013


- In 2013 we optimized the CQ point scales by making the speed of decrease more equal for all stage races. The same thing happened for all one-day races. While doing this, we changed the total amount of points for each category as little as possible. We still didn't look for mathematical perfection, because we wanted to keep some recognizable, well-known numbers.

- We split up the category 2.WT in 2.WT1 (Paris-Nice, Tirreno-Adriatico, Vuelta al Pais Vasco, Dauphiné, Tour de Suisse) and 2.WT2 (the other WT-stage races).

- More riders receive points in categories 2.1, 2.2 and NC3.

- The points in WC U23 are now equal to NC3.

 

[LaFlorecita]

A kazakh OUT and a german IN

Now exactly 7500 points

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Unfortunately for a few teams, the newest update from cqranking.com includes several points adjustments, mainly due to Rasmussen's results being stripped away.

This means that quite a few teams are now above the 7500 limit and these will have to PM me with their changes. If I don't hear anything before the deadline, I will just remove the cheapest possible rider to get the team in question under 7500 points.

The teams are:

Afrank: 7504
AntonioRossi: 7513
Blues in the bottle: 7502
cineteq: 7505
coinneach: 7508
CraZyCaLL: 7503
GP Blanco: 7507
Handbrake: 7508
Mellow Velo: 7506
Object: 7501
Pentacycle: 7507
Phoenix118: 7505
The Amateur: 7506
Total Package: 7502
vladimir: 7501
will10: 7501
Zam_Olyas: 7505

 

[gerundium]

submitted a quickly drawn up team with 26 riders @ 7500 points

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

The team to put an end to my lucky streak of top ten finishes:

Points:
800+: 3
600-799: 0
400-599: 2
300-399: 3
200-299: 4
100-199: 7
50-99: 7
1-49: 5
Free: 2

Age
31+: 5
28-30: 5
25-27: 7
22-24: 10
20-21: 6

Nationality/region:
Fra, Ita, Aus: 5 each
Spa: 3
BeNeLux: 6
Scandinavia: 2
Former USSR: 3
S America: 1
GBR: 2
"New markets": 1

Team:
Astana, BMC: 4 each
Lampre: 3
AG2R, Euskatel, Garmin, Sky, Movistar, GreenEdge, Blanco, RadioSh : 2 each
Other WT: 2
Non WT (from 3 teams): 4

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Unfortunately for a few teams, the newest update from cqranking.com includes several points adjustments, mainly due to Rasmussen's results being stripped away.

This means that quite a few teams are now above the 7500 limit and these will have to PM me with their changes. If I don't hear anything before the deadline, I will just remove the cheapest possible rider to get the team in question under 7500 points.

The teams are:

Afrank: 7504
AntonioRossi: 7513
Blues in the bottle: 7502
cineteq: 7505
coinneach: 7508
CraZyCaLL: 7503
GP Blanco: 7507
Handbrake: 7508
Mellow Velo: 7506
Object: 7501
Pentacycle: 7507
Phoenix118: 7505
The Amateur: 7506
Total Package: 7502
vladimir: 7501
will10: 7501
Zam_Olyas: 7505

I wonder how many of them have a certain 20 pointer as their cheapest rider to be stripped away...

 

[vladimir]

Unfortunately for a few teams, the newest update from cqranking.com includes several points adjustments, mainly due to Rasmussen's results being stripped away.

This means that quite a few teams are now above the 7500 limit and these will have to PM me with their changes. If I don't hear anything before the deadline, I will just remove the cheapest possible rider to get the team in question under 7500 points.

The teams are:

Afrank: 7504
AntonioRossi: 7513
Blues in the bottle: 7502
cineteq: 7505
coinneach: 7508
CraZyCaLL: 7503
GP Blanco: 7507
Handbrake: 7508
Mellow Velo: 7506
Object: 7501
Pentacycle: 7507
Phoenix118: 7505
The Amateur: 7506
Total Package: 7502
vladimir: 7501
will10: 7501
Zam_Olyas: 7505

Thanks a bundle for doing this Hugo!
I was sure I was well under the limit, but either some of my riders have had their points adjusted, or my own copy and paste between my own versions have fooled me.
Should be easy to cut one single point however

BTW; Hugo will it be easier for you just to have a PM with one rider out and one in, or is it better to send the whole adjusted team?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

BTW; Hugo will it be easier for you just to have a PM with one rider out and one in, or is it better to send the whole adjusted team?

If it's just one straight swap, the easiest for me is probably if you just tell me who goes in and who goes out, but if there are several changes, pasting the whole team is probably the easiest. It doesn't matter that much though

 

[LaFlorecita]

I wonder how many of them have a certain 20 pointer as their cheapest rider to be stripped away...

I was 7 points over the limit and just switched one rider for someone 7 points cheaper.

 

[Kjellus]

Newbie here, just sent in a team. Looking forward to a great cycling year!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Hugo: Zam is somewhere in India where he has limited access to the internet. Can I pm you zam's new team? (I created his team anyway)

 

[TeoSheva]

submitted my team.... it will be difficult to improve the 5th place of the last year, but I will try

 

[HelgeBlendet]

Submitted my team, too.

I played around a lot, but realised that I tend to drift to a core of 10-12 riders that always made it into the team, but none of them convinced me completely. So I decided to compile a mediocre team that should be fun to follow around through the season. Riders from 17 nations riding for 16 teams covering all kind of races. Can't wait for the season to start!