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Update #37: Hot Zam! Italian team wins calm week between the Vuelta/Worlds storms

This week was a post-Vuelta hangover, with a variety of Italian and Belgian 1.1 and 1.HC races, and the prestigious but not-exactly-massive-points WCTTT. The TT and RR are coming up this week, however, and there are rather large points on offer. Moreover, with a relatively flat course that favours classics specialists, there are a number of possibilities for riders that could affect this game. Not so much in the TT, where favourites Martin/Dumoulin/Dennis aren't heavily picked in this game (although 16 have Dennis and 31 have dark horse Phinney), but the RR could see points go to any number of riders that are moderately popular, from Stybar to Sagan to Boom to Alaphilippe to Boasson Hagen. Then again, we could see a podium of some combo of Kristoff/Degenkolb/Valverde/Matthews and it could be a non-issue in this game. Either way, the WCs are one of the last sputters, with Lombardia coming the following week, which will determine whether the upper echelons of this game will be set in stone or whether the smattering of smaller races to end the season will lead to excitement and uncertainty.

This week's top scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 Zam_Olyas 397
2 Armchair cyclist 346
3 Roderick 344
4 RoudeLeiw 326
5 knallertjeblaf 322
6 Yellow Knight 305
7 Nyssinator 298
8 Panda_Claws 296
9 search 291
10 Blues in the bottle 289

With the majority of the week featuring Italian races, it's little surprise that our resident all-Italian team specialist, Zam_Olyas, wins the week. With a decent amount of points from Colbrelli, Trentin, Sbaragli, Visconti, Marcato, Ziloli and Oss, Zam takes top honours. 2nd place Armchair Cyclist does so on the virtue of choosing no fewer than four members of BMC's winning TTT squad (Dennis, Dillier, Phinney, Oss), and in fact all of his other riders scoring more than ten points were from the TTT as well. That is how to make the most of that event! Zam's week wasn't enough to move their team out of last place overall, but something tells me that this team was not built with the overall as a primary goal. Profit by year's end isn't an unreasonable goal, though, after this week.

This week's high movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 Blues in the bottle (+11)
2 RoudeLeiw (+10)
3 knallertjeblaf (+9)
4 Roderick (+8)
4 Skibby the bush kangaroo (+8)
6 cj2002 (+7)
6 Armchair cyclist (+7)
8 zlev11 (+5)
8 Panda_Claws (+5)
8 Nyssinator (+5)
8 EvansIsTheBest (+5)

Blues in the bottle rides a solid week to crack the top 50 overall and take the honours as the highest moving team of the week. 4th place Skibby is the highest overall team on this list, moving into the top 30.

Green jersey competition

Rank Team Points
1 snccdcno 176
2 RoudeLeiw 171
3 Jpettersen 168
4 Kjellus 162
5 merengues 157
6 GP Blanco 154
7 derrudi 148
8 Yellow Knight 147
9 Ruvu75 146
10 Schleckamagurky 139

RoudeLeiw's high placing this week was enough to move their team into a tie for 1st... until snccdcno's points for being in a tie for 13th on the week were tallied. snccdcno has scored in 3 straight weeks, and has 2 weekly wins in the last 7 weeks. It's no wonder that this surge has affected their team's position in the overall standings. Yellow Knight's 20 points moves their team into the top 10 as well.

Overall standings

Rank Up/down Team Points Points this week
1 (-) Cykeltyven 15137 116
2 (-) snccdcno 14618 250
3 (-) skidmark 14496 150
4 (-) Kjellus 14275 159
5 (+1) PeterB 14157 235
6 (-1) merengues 14024 82
7 (+1) kabete 14023 215
8 (-1) Londonpat 13957 105
9 (+1) derrudi 13915 204
10 (-1) karaev 13809 75
11 (-) del1962 13732 79
12 (-) GP Blanco 13720 76
13 (-) greenedge 13604 146
14 (+4) Yellow Knight 13594 305
15 (-1) Ferminal 13516 84
16 (-1) Hugo Koblet 13469138
17 (-) Ruvu75 13413 111
18 (+3) Jpettersen 13389 197
19 (-3) Geraint Too Fast 82
20 (-1) Froome19 13358 96

Overall leader Cykeltyven doesn't lose much ground, although 2nd place snccdcno does make up over 100 points courtesy of picking Sean de Bie (150 this week). Things seem pretty locked in this week, with the top 6 being separated by over 100 points each, and the difference between 1st and 2nd still being over 500 points. As well, no one moves in or out of the top 10. But as I said above, the Worlds will tell a story on that very soon.

Spreadsheet at dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ogzx3awus5pdppj/CQ%202015%20update%2037.xls?dl=0
 
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Ledanois! Completely unexpected points from one of my rarest picks. Well done. With Dennis' disappointing 6th in the TT, I thought I'd be pretty much up against it for the overall, but this is a good surprise. Between the two of them (and, quickly looking through the top 2 teams, not seeing any real points from the TT or today) I should be about level with 2nd place overall going into the RR.

Here's what the top 2 teams have for the RR:

Cykeltyven

Rodriguez
Boasson Hagen
Gesink
Haussler
Kump

snccdcno

Rodriguez
Viviani
Boasson Hagen
Boom
Gesink
Stannard
Felline


And here's what I've got:

Sagan
Rodriguez
Boasson Hagen
Gesink
Stannard
Kump

Or, put another way, Rodriguez, Boasson Hagen and Gesink are shared by the 3 of us.

Cykeltyven and I have Kump (I would eat my hat if he gets more than finishing points anyway).

snccdcno and I have Stannard.

Cykeltyven alone has Haussler - he can place well in these races, but unless an unexpected break is given leash, he's not Australia's focus at all, and I haven't seen him show form since March.

snccdcno alone has Boom, Viviani and Felline. Boom is a legit threat. Viviani seems to think he's a threat, but I don't so much believe that he'll survive the last hills. Felline is working for whoever ends up leading between Nibali, Viviani and Ulissi (my money is on Ulissi).

I alone have Sagan.

So it's pretty obvious to me - I need Sagan to do well at the Worlds to have a shot at winning this game. Watching the U23 today, based on the course it seems like Sagan has a better chance of surviving than Viviani or Boom, but I could see a scenario where both of those latter guys pick up points and Sagan disappoints. On the one hand, Sagan is excellent at 'doing well' (euphemism for 'high place without winning'), which would serve me well, but then again, maybe he crashed out of the Vuelta too early and doesn't have any form. I really don't know! Aside from an exciting race, this Worlds is do or die for my hopes to be the first ever 2-time CQ champ. Got my fingers crossed!
 
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well.... looks like crossing my fingers paid off, holy crap. Men's senior and U23 world champs on my team, wow! I am pretty interested to see where things stand after this update. Aside from the overall picture, I feel like I have a good shot at the week as well (although I see that vernakular has both Sagan and Matthews, so maybe it's more of a second place thing). I got Sagan, Ledanois, Dennis, and Hivert got some points in France too. So curious to see how the end of season goes.
 
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Glad that Sagan won! On the other hand Stybar and Trentin did not get me the points i'd need to go into the top 10 as Karaev's team had Sagan and Ledanois, the other two above me outside the top 10 (GP Blanco and del) had Sagan too.

I need riders like Trentin and Bevin to dominate the Italian races and the Japan Cup for an eventual top 10, hopefully that can occur.
 
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skidmark said:
Update #37: Hot Zam! Italian team wins calm week between the Vuelta/Worlds storms
Armchair Cyclist does so on the virtue of choosing no fewer than four members of BMC's winning TTT squad (Dennis, Dillier, Phinney, Oss), and in fact all of his other riders scoring more than ten points were from the TTT as well.
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I knew I had a specialisation, just wasn't sure what it is.
 
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Update #38: Rainbow jersey causes shakeup in green jersey competition, heats up battle for yellow jersey

My friends, we are entering the home stretch. As mentioned in an assessment last week, overall leader Cykeltyven had a pretty comfortable lead, but not too many prospects for the Worlds. One Worlds later, and that assessment turned out to be pretty close to what developed. One of the 'big four' of this season's CQ game (along with Froome, Quintana and Rodriguez), Peter Sagan, got the biggest win of his already spectacular young career, no doubt sending the 35 team owners that had him into fits of 'I knew he could do it' excitement. The unparalleled 1-day haul - save for the Olympics - of 400 points makes Sagan the obvious big story for the week, especially given the relative rarity of the other top finishers (and the top finishers in the wildly unpredictable TT on Wednesday).

This week's top scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 vernakular 763
2 skidmark 694
3 fauniera 659
4 Trudgin 624
5 Lancasterke 603
6 freshman 600
7 EvansIsTheBest 598
8 Skibby the bush kangaroo 585
9 afpm90 581
10 RoudeLeiw 580

Well, 35 teams had Sagan, and 40 teams scored more than 400 points this week in total. So, who do you think all the top teams had? Well, vernakular did them one better by having Sagan and being one of the only two teams with Matthews. The 640 combined points between those two would have been good for third on the week alone; it only took some lower-rank and finishing points to buffer that total to a winning conclusion. Team skidmark had an incredibly fortunate week to nab second place, now with both the reigning senior and U23 world champions (of the 7 teams with Ledanois, karaev also had Sagan). Fauniera's team turned to the unexpected source of Thomas Voeckler to support Sagan's points, as the stage/overall runner-up in a French 2.1 race brought in 90 points to complement Sagan and a bunch of other minor points.

This week's high movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 vernakular (+18)
2 freshman (+15)
3 fauniera (+14)
4 RoudeLeiw (+13)
4 knallertjeblaf (+13)
4 EvansIsTheBest (+13)
7 HelgeBlendet (+12)
7 rote_laterne (+12)
7 Sasquatch (+12)
10 zlev11 (+11)
10 Mellow Velo (+11)

Vernakular's good week doesn't stop with the points haul; their team also moves up 18 spots, and is very close to the top half of the table. Other teams with high gains have entered quite respectable positions in the overall table - freshman, zlev11, EvansIsTheBest and fauniera are all within the top 40 overall with this week's movement.

Green Jersey competition

Rank Team Points
1 RoudeLeiw 183
2 snccdcno 176
3 Jpettersen 168
4 skidmark 164
5 Kjellus 162
6 merengues 157
7 GP Blanco 154
8 derrudi 148
9 Yellow Knight 147
10 Ruvu75 146

It's been quite the battle at the top of the table - after 3 weeks scoring in a row, snccdcno cools down, but RoudeLeiw follows up on a 4th place last week to get 10th this week, the resulting points of which put their team back on top! (or, is it on top for the first time? Their team has been up there for so long that I can't remember). The rest of the top 10 goes pointless, save for my team vaulting back into the top 10 after 2nd on the week.

Overall Standings

Rank Up/down Team Points Points this week
1 (-) Cykeltyven 15295 158
2 (+1) skidmark 15190 694
3 (-1) snccdcno 14756 138
4 (-) Kjellus 14382 107
5 (+5) karaev 14342 533
6 (-1) PeterB 14319 162
7 (-) kabete 14260 237
8 (+3) del1962 14245 513
9 (-3) merengues 14207 183
10 (+2) GP Blanco 14188 468
11 (+2) greenedge 14130 526
12 (-3) derrudi 14110 195
13 (-5) Londonpat 14083 126
14 (+5) Geraint Too Fast 13885 499
15 (-1) Yellow Knight 13798 204
16 (+10) Skibby the bush kangaroo 13715 585
17 (+8) will10 13697 561
18 (-2) Hugo Koblet 13571 102
19 (-4) Ferminal 13566 50
20 (-3) Ruvu75 13556 143

Look for the teams with pluses in the up/down column, and you'll see the teams in the top 20 with Sagan, simple as that. The top spot is a lot more hotly contested than it was a week ago, when Cykeltyven had what looked to be a pretty insurmountable lead (519 points over 2nd place, 641 points over 3rd). Things broke in the way of team skidmark this week, for sure - with second on the week, my team cuts the gap to just 105 points. That's not 'Jos van Emden placing top 10 in some Chinese end-of-season HC race in 2013' closeness (sorry for the painful memories GTF), but it is definitely close enough to be decided by a single result. Third place snccdcno isn't totally out of it at 539 points, but would need for things to break in a very particular way to pull it back (an outrageous Fabio Felline run on the Italian races this week, for example, is not out of the question, but a bit of a hail mary). At any rate, there simply aren't a lot of points left. This week sees 3 Italian 1.HC races and Lombardia, and then it's a slow trickle of Paris-Tours and Japan Cup kind of stuff until the obscure Chinese races end things off. Still a fair bit at play, but things are starting to settle, and we should have a good picture of what's going to happen in the next week. Aside from karaev's impressive leap within the top 10, other notable happenings are that del1962 and GP Blanco move into the top 10 while derrudi and Londonpat tumble out.

Spreadsheet at dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnsmgtinc1vx5ql/CQ%202015%20update%2038.xls?dl=0
 
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Glad to see that its probably gonna be a tight finish. I didnt do as bad as i thought. I was also glad to see Sagan win even though I dont have him in my team. Hes been close a lot this year and to pull out a win like that is well deserved. Seems like a fitting world champ.
 
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Okay, startlists aren't complete yet for anything but the races that start today, but here they are:

Tre Valli

Konrad
Brajkovic
Schumacher
Filosi

Cykeltyven has Diego Rosa, Elissonde, and Schumacher from what I can see. The last one I have too, but the first two can do well and are conditioned from the Vuelta (although Rosa is with Nibali and Aru on the team). Konrad and Brajko are a bit of an unknown, as neither has raced much recently, and Brajko has been terrible. But he's finished 2nd in Lombardia before (the year he thought he won) so he could be peaking. Advantage Cykeltyven, I think, though.

Eurometropole

De Gendt
Holst Enger
McLay

Cykeltyven has Ladagnous, De Gendt, Haussler. It's a sprinters race so I guess it depends on who Iam races for - Holst Enger has been good later in the season, but Haussler is fast too. McLay just got added (I think it said Hutarovich before today), and that could be big for me because his sprinting form is getting better as his neo-pro year goes on. I'm hopeful about this one.
 
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Okay, startlists aren't complete yet for anything but the races that start today, but here they are:

Tre Valli

Konrad
Brajkovic
Schumacher
Filosi

Cykeltyven has Diego Rosa, Elissonde, and Schumacher from what I can see. The last one I have too, but the first two can do well and are conditioned from the Vuelta (although Rosa is with Nibali and Aru on the team). Konrad and Brajko are a bit of an unknown, as neither has raced much recently, and Brajko has been terrible. But he's finished 2nd in Lombardia before (the year he thought he won) so he could be peaking. Advantage Cykeltyven, I think, though.

Eurometropole

De Gendt
Holst Enger
McLay

Cykeltyven has Ladagnous, De Gendt, Haussler. It's a sprinters race so I guess it depends on who Iam races for - Holst Enger has been good later in the season, but Haussler is fast too. McLay just got added (I think it said Hutarovich before today), and that could be big for me because his sprinting form is getting better as his neo-pro year goes on. I'm hopeful about this one.
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Hmm, Elissonde got 42 points, Brajko 5. Win for Cykeltyven. And while McLay and Holst Enger both got top 20 in the prologue, Haussler and Ladagnous got even higher. Not looking the greatest for me. Well, onward and upwards I suppose!

Milano-Torino

Latour
Konrad
Chevrier
Filosi
Henao
Porte

Looking at a glance, Cykeltyven has the guys who might score for me (Latour, Henao, Porte) plus Elissonde again, Landa, Miguel Lopez, and Visconti, maybe more. Oh boy, maybe I'll just focus on who I have from now on, this is depressing.

Piemonte

Chevrier
Porte
Konrad

Not much happening there. Rest of the lists are still incomplete. It's not looking hopeful... who will be my savior? Come on Sagan, ride Lombardia and surprise us again.
 
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re: my previous posts - well, nevermind. I was trying to drum up some suspense on a race-by-race basis but today blew that away. Cykeltyven had Rosa (140 points), Visconti (36), Landa (18) and Elissonde (5). We both had Henao and Latour with minor points, and I had nobody not on Cykeltyven's team scoring. That's an extra 240 points or so in the last 2 days, on top of the 105 point lead their team already had. I'd need a miracle.
 
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Now that I snatched the green jersey, I hope that I can hang in there with a spirited defense, even though the Italian week seemed kind of meh to me
 
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Update #39: Everything comes up Rosas for Cykeltyven, Zam Olyas as they clinch top spot and weekly honours respectively

(Pardon the delay in update, had some computer troubles)

Well, this week was the last 'big points' week of the season, and some teams made it count. After having a seemingly unassailable lead following the Vuelta, Cykeltyven saw that lead cut to just over 100 points after team skidmark's strong performance netted them 2nd place last week. But Cykeltyven hit right back with a 3rd place this week. Barring some kind of late season hail mary involving some little-picked rider dominating the last Asian races, Cykeltyven has this locked up. There was still quite a bit of movement in the top 20 this week, and the green jersey competition is far from finished with equal points every week, so there is still something to play for, just not as much suspense for the top spot overall.

This week's top scorers

Rank Team Points this week
1 Zam_Olyas 854
2 Eyeballs Out 694
3 Cykeltyven 685
4 Panda_Claws 622
5 martybart 569
5 asdfgh101 569
7 Yellow Knight 565
8 Pentacycle 545
9 Tuarts 516
10 MADRAZO 515

It is perhaps of no surprise that in a week with 3 Italian 1.HC and one Italian WT race that the team of all Italians has taken top spot. Zam picks up his second weekly title in 3 weeks, which is enough to jump out of last place overall (to 2nd last) and become the final team to make it into profit (that's right - every team is now in profit! Well done generally picking winners, guys, that doesn't happen every year). At the top of Zam's heap is Diego Rosa, who was having a decent season (doubled his 2014 points to this point) but then doubled his 2015 total in one week with 252 points this week! Cunego also got over 100 points this week, Trentin, Sbaragli and Colbrelli all picked up over 60, and a chunk of riders picked up minor points. Second place Eyeballs_Out picked up points led by Bakelants, who has proven to be a good pick this year, and got backup points from a bunch of non-Italians (Lutsenko, Arndt, Elissonde).

This week's high movers

Rank Team Up/down
1 Eyeballs Out (+16)
2 asdfgh101 (+12)
2 gustienordic (+12)
4 nuvolablu (+11)
4 martybart (+11)
4 Panda_Claws (+11)
4 MADRAZO (+11)
4 Pentacycle (+11)
9 fauniera (+9)
9 Tuarts (+9)
9 Joelsim (+9)

Eyeballs Out's big week moves their team up a bunch of spots into the top 50. A good number of other teams are bunched together, moving up around 10 spots. In the final weeks we can expect a bit less movement as points are smaller, riders' seasons are over, and things are a bit more settled.

Green Jersey competition

Rank Team Points
1 RoudeLeiw 183
2 snccdcno 176
3 Jpettersen 168
4 Cykeltyven 167
5 Yellow Knight 165
6 skidmark 164
7 Kjellus 162
8 merengues 157
9 GP Blanco 154
10 derrudi 148

RoudeLeiw hangs on to the top spot, as no one who was in the top 10 last week scored any points. Cykeltyven and Yellow Knight jump into the top 10 overall to complicate things, but no movement otherwise. However, as 45 points are given every week regardless of output, it's anyone's game at the unpredictable end of season. One team with a hot rider in a Chinese race can still score 45 first place points just like any other week.

Interesting factoids: a) Zam has 3 weekly victories, week 4, week 37, and now week 39. Those 135 points are the only points their team has for the green jersey. Go big or go home! b) with VeloRooms team scoring points for 12th place this week, that has 151 of our 155 teams having scored at least a point. Only a few weeks left, you four other consistent-but-never-top teams!

Overall Standings

Rank Up/down Team Points Points this week
1 (-) Cykeltyven 15980 685
2 (-) skidmark 15415 225
3 (-) snccdcno 15246 490
4 (-) Kjellus 14750 368
5 (+2) kabete 14717 457
6 (-) PeterB 14640 321
7 (+5) derrudi 14603 493
8 (+1) merengues 14570 363
9 (+1) GP Blanco 14537 349
10 (-5) karaev 14516 174
11 (-) greenedge 14491 361
12 (-4) del1962 14423 178
13 (+2) Yellow Knight 14363 565
14 (-1) Londonpat 14310 227
15 (-1) Geraint Too Fast 14135 250
16 (-) Skibby the bush kangaroo 13982 267
17 (-) will10 13973 276
18 (+11) MADRAZO 13891 515
19 (+6) Oliveira 13865 417
20 (+3) Jpettersen 13862 335

With very little to go, the overall podium looks pretty set, and it would take a fair bit of luck for the order to change. Cykeltyven now has a more than 500 point lead with only 4 1.HC races left, 1 2.HC race (and it's Hainan which rarely has many riders from the game), and a smattering of 1.1 and 2.1 races (and again, 2 of the 3 2.1 races left are in China with few of the top names here). This was the week of reckoning. There will be some scraps to clean up with Abu Dhabi, Paris-Tours and the Japan Cup, but that's about it, folks.

Note the movement this week for derrudi, rocketing into the top ten, while del1962 plummets out and karaev almost does so as well. One of the week's top movers, MADRAZO, rockets into the top 20 as well. It may not be the overall honours, but it's still nice to finish the season well.

spreadsheet at dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s96wdzlub1i5q11/CQ%202015%20update%2039.xls?dl=0
 
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