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Having such a substitute rule will take away more from the game than it adds to it. Those who are thorough enough to find all the obvious picks deserve to be rewarded. It could also go both ways. For every Kittel and Gaviria there's an Andy Schleck, Pellizotti or Goss.
And you can argue that those who lose interest because of missing an obvious pick are the ones likely to lose interest anyway. Besides, it's perfectly okay and understandable that not everyone follows the game through the season, although more discussion would obviously make it more fun. Don't think your proposed bail-out card will help much though.
I also have some feedback I want to share. In the beginning of the year, I wrote this:
By and large, I think my prediction was correct. The KoM competition being so similar to the points one dilutes both competitions, in my opinion. I suggest keeping only the points competition next year. If someone decides to actually aim for a sub-competition, the strategy one would have to employ would be the same for both, which kind of underscores my point.
Tigerion said:Netserk said:There were 11 riders on at least half of all teams. While many of them were good picks, several weren't, so it isn't really the be-all and end-all to have the most popular riders (though skidmark did have them all).
The examples were the ones I remember people over the years being upset about.
Gerrans 2014: 511 >> 1736
Ewan 2015: 95 >> 716
Porte: 2015: 415 >> 1359
Gavaria 2016: 151 >> 833
Boonen 2014: 139 - 783
Partially the suggestion was driven by perceived impact at the start of the game, with people losing interest quickly.
I'm not 100% locked on to the idea, just a thought as it can be annoying when you realise. It was only Gavaria in that list which I missed and given there is a number of riders who only just made the short list cut who I would have dropped
Having such a substitute rule will take away more from the game than it adds to it. Those who are thorough enough to find all the obvious picks deserve to be rewarded. It could also go both ways. For every Kittel and Gaviria there's an Andy Schleck, Pellizotti or Goss.
And you can argue that those who lose interest because of missing an obvious pick are the ones likely to lose interest anyway. Besides, it's perfectly okay and understandable that not everyone follows the game through the season, although more discussion would obviously make it more fun. Don't think your proposed bail-out card will help much though.
I also have some feedback I want to share. In the beginning of the year, I wrote this:
Squire said:So there will be a KoM competition this year?
In my view such a competition is maybe a bit unnecessary. The leaderboard for such a competition will inevitably be the same as the Green Jersey competition, minus the teams that are doing well overall. I don't think it will create more interest from players who don't already have something to cheer about. I'd wager that, after a few months, the top ten will be quite exactly like the green jersey, with the exception of, say, the top 20-30 teams in the overall.
I think the updates are large enough already. I think adding in a few funfacts and other such statistics (if they're apparent) will be a better way to make the updates even more interesting, although they're quite fine as they are. I'm very much in your camp regarding keeping the simplicity of the game intact. If there is a wish for an additional minor competition, maybe a "Best newcomer" would be better. Such a ranking doesn't necessarily have to be updated every week, to save space and work.
Just my 2c.![]()
By and large, I think my prediction was correct. The KoM competition being so similar to the points one dilutes both competitions, in my opinion. I suggest keeping only the points competition next year. If someone decides to actually aim for a sub-competition, the strategy one would have to employ would be the same for both, which kind of underscores my point.