The 2018 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

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Alaphilippe is an interesting case. He sure missed the Ardennes and the Tour, but because of that he was in form for the Vuelta (got a stage) and also Il Lombardia where he got a second place. I don't know if he would have the same late season form if he raced during the summer. So it is hard to say that he can do better by a large margin.
 
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I wonder how many people are going to go full genius with Valverde......

He was phenomenal last year before the crash and he has had plenty of time to train for his comeback. I initially made a team with him, but 1828 points for an old guy coming back from a bad crash is just an unacceptable risk even for Papi Imbatido.

Moscon is also a risky pick in my opinion. He could explode in terms of points, but he could also be a slightly improved version of Benoot and be a somewhat mediocre pick imo.
 
Team submitted, ended with 33 riders at 7496 points. Had most of the team finished for a long time but the last 5-7 riders was very open and I am still quite unsure about those, especially chosing the last 2 or 3 riders between several 400-900 points candidates, and finishing the puzzle with a few cheaper riders besides those was quite difficult.

Ended up like this (without revealing too much):

1000+ : 1
501-1000 : 3
301-500: 4
101-300: 14
0-100: 11

Most popular countries: Italy and France with 5 riders each
 
Hi everyone, it's my first try around.

So here's mine: 25 riders - 7500 pts
IT 6
FR 3
AUS 3
COL 2
CH 2
UK 2
LTU 1
DE 1
PL 1
CZ 1
ECU 1
NOR 1
EST 1

Difficult exercise, I guess i emphasized a bit too much on youngsterzz but whatever, good luck! :cool:
 
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Maaaaaaaarten said:
I have no clue whether my team will be good or not. At least without obvious 100% must have expensive picks the teams will be very diverse, which is always nice.

Also, something which I'd like to point out, even though it doesn't really bother me; if you post all those stats about your team, people can figure out some of the riders you picked or at least come to an educated guess about it. Considering we don't discuss picks in this thread, it might be possible to construe sharing those stats as problematic. Again, I'm personally not bothered by it, but you should be (and probably are) aware that people read this thread and try to deduce whatever they can from those stats to point them to potentially good picks they might have missed. For instance, if you don't have that many Italian and then you read this thread, you're going to double check to see if you didn't miss any Italian picks, aren't you? (At least I would, but I already had eight of them ;))
I totally agree and I also find it disturbing because between the points, country, and team, it is fairly easy to figure out the team. It's pretty much like posting the rider's initials.

It should not be allowed!
 
For once I agree with Jancouver.... :)

I get that we all are eager to get started and reveal our teams and thoughts,but it would be better to avoid spoilers before deadline.

There's interesting discussions going on,but I'll refrain from sharing my thoughts until tomorrow.
 
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Kazistuta said:
For once I agree with Jancouver.... :)

I get that we all are eager to get started and reveal our teams and thoughts,but it would be better to avoid spoilers before deadline.

There's interesting discussions going on,but I'll refrain from sharing my thoughts until tomorrow.
Agreed with you guys, and sorry about that. But at the end of the day, it's not like there was a perfect team. Even with a great combination, I mean that this is the season that will decide everything.
 
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Can't we ban all team-related discussion before the deadline next year? I get why people are excited, but I feel like it's much more fun to wait for the reveal. I also prefer composing my team completely on my own, and I do admit it's annoying to know that some people will only think of a rider because he/his nation was mentioned somewhere in the thread.
 
I never thought the statistics part could influence anyone's decision-making (after all, it's been a part of the conversation in the thread since the earliest editions and I don't recall any complaints about it before), but I acknowledge that it is indeed an issue if some would revise their teams because of that, so yeah it's probably better to not share those until after the reveal. I'm completely on line with those stating that name-dropping shouldn't be allowed until after the reveal as well.
 
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Karaev1 said:
I went with 2 1000+ guys and I'm wondering if that will be very rare for this edition... I am also very curious how rare a certain Italian rider will be.(he is my third most expensive guy) Can't wait for the team reveal!
I think the certain Italian will be on 40 - 60 % of the teams.
This will be again a long night, can't wait.

I'm with NairoQ, I did my team pretty early. Some riders I strongly considered but didn't pick will be on many teams according to the stats posted here and velorooms. Also I didn't pick many of the cheap Italians as I personally like some other riders better who are probably not so good picks. But then I only hope for a top 50. :)
 
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denchik2001 said:
How I can send my team? I can not send messages to admin. Or I late?
New members first posts need to be approved from moderators and I just did that. Im pretty sure it works now - try and send the team again, otherwise just write here again and we will figure it out
 
Sorry for the name dropping.

FROOME Chris
VAN AVERMAET Greg
SAGAN Peter
DUMOULIN Tom
KRISTOFF Alexander
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
NIBALI Vincenzo
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
MATTHEWS Michael
KWIATKOWSKI Michal
PINOT Thibaut
DEMARE Arnaud
GILBERT Philippe
MARTIN Daniel
VIVIANI Elia
URAN URAN Rigoberto
ULISSI Diego
LANDA MEANA Mikel
ROGLIC Primoz
TRENTIN Matteo
ARU Fabio
ZAKARIN Ilnur
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
GREIPEL André
BOUHANNI Nacer
PORTE Richie
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
WELLENS Tim
BARDET Romain
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
MOLLEMA Bauke
COLBRELLI Sonny
STUYVEN Jasper
KITTEL Marcel
POZZOVIVO Domenico
NAESEN Oliver
TEUNS Dylan
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis
DEGENKOLB John
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria
MAJKA Rafal
ALBASINI Michael
CANOLA Marco
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
GALLOPIN Tony
KELDERMAN Wilco
CALMEJANE Lilian
DENNIS Rohan
MOSCON Gianni
YATES Simon
YATES Adam
BENOOT Tiesj
THOMAS Geraint
BENNETT Sam
BARGUIL Warren
JUNGELS Bob
VUILLERMOZ Alexis
DRUCKER Jempy
POELS Wout
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
CARUSO Damiano
FELLINE Fabio
EWAN Caleb
DE BUYST Jasper
FUGLSANG Jakob
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan
KÜNG Stefan
VAN GARDEREN Tejay
CATTANEO Mattia
DILLIER Silvan
ROCHE Nicolas
THEUNS Edward
VISCONTI Giovanni
MARECZKO Jakub
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus
MEINTJES Louis
KEUKELEIRE Jens
MODOLO Sacha
SPILAK Simon
VANMARCKE Sep
GAVAZZI Francesco
SIMON Julien
LAMPAERT Yves
ALARCON GARCIA Raul
HERMANS Ben
LUTSENKO Alexey
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
CHAVANEL Sylvain
BUCHMANN Emanuel
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
WOODS Michael
BARBERO CUESTA Carlos
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
VICHOT Arthur
HAAS Nathan
BOOKWALTER Brent
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka
ROSON GARCIA Jaime
MARTIN Tony
PICHON Laurent
BARBIER Rudy
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
STYBAR Zdenek
FINETTO Mauro
MARTIN Guillaume
VAN AERT Wout
DURBRIDGE Luke
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh
PEDERSEN Mads
PRADES REVERTER Benjami
VANTOMME Maxime
BAKELANTS Jan
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
OOMEN Sam
BOOM Lars
JENSEN August
ARMEE Sander
HARDY Romain
LATOUR Pierre
BENNETT George
MOHORIC Matej
DEHAES Kenny
MEURISSE Xandro
VAKOC Petr
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel
PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson
KONRAD Patrick
VAN EMDEN Jos
POLANC Jan
TRATNIK Jan
VERMELTFOORT Coen
JULES Justin
SWIFT Ben
DUPONT Timothy
TERPSTRA Niki
SEVILLA RIVERA Oscar Miguel
HIVERT Jonathan
THOMAS Benjamin
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
PÖSTLBERGER Lukas
DE GENDT Thomas
HINDLEY Jai
GERRANS Simon
GENIEZ Alexandre
HAIG Jack
CAMPENAERTS Victor
SLAGTER Tom-Jelte
TVETCOV Serghei
MCCARTHY Jay
JANS Roy
FRANK Mathias
PASQUALON Andrea
GIDICH Yevgeniy
MEZGEC Luka
AVILA VANEGAS Edwin Alcibiades
HOWES Alex
CONSONNI Simone
GIBBONS Ryan
SENNI Manuel
VENTURINI Clément
ARNDT Nikias
BETTIOL Alberto
VAN LERBERGHE Bert
GAUDU David
LIETAER Eliot
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
SENECHAL Florian
VAN BAARLE Dylan
WEENING Pieter
STALLAERT Joeri
RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
VASYLYUK Andriy
BRITTON Rob
NOCENTINI Rinaldo
VAN DER HOORN Taco
ROLLAND Pierre
DEBUSSCHERE Jens
MOSCA Jacopo
KIRYIENKA Vasil
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
PETIT Adrien
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin
TORRES AGUDELO Rodolfo Andres
PATERSKI Maciej
BACKAERT Frederik
KONONENKO Mykhaylo
BUTS Vitaliy
ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo
HOFLAND Moreno
HOWSON Damien
DUYN Huub
EDET Nicolas
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
GESINK Robert
MONSALVE PERTSINIDIS Yonathan Alejandro
BAZHKOU Stanislau
SELIG Rüdiger
CERNY Josef
BAUHAUS Phil
LAPORTE Christophe
HUFFMAN Evan
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin
GULDHAMMER POULSEN Rasmus
MCLAY Daniel
RÄIM Mihkel
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
PARDILLA BELLON Sergio
HIRT Jan
BOIVIN Guillaume
WIPPERT Wouter
MÜHLBERGER Gregor
DASSONVILLE Flavien
ROWE Luke
JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt
EARLE Nathan
VAN POPPEL Danny
ROOSEN Timo
MAS NICOLAU Enric
DUMOULIN Samuel
KREDER Michel
LIGTHART Pim
CAVAGNA Rémi
PAUWELS Serge
CHERNETSKIY Sergey
HANSEN Jesper
POLITT Nils
VANENDERT Jelle
LOUBET Julien
PUJOL MUÑOZ Oscar
BRÄNDLE Matthias
BONIFAZIO Niccolo
STÜSSI Colin
ZABEL Rick
MCCABE Travis
VILLELLA Davide
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida
PERICHON Pierre-Luc
FILOSI Iuri
POLIVODA Oleksandr
VAN GESTEL Dries
BOUET Maxime
LAENGEN Vegard Stake
BLYTHE Adam
LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose
KREUZIGER Roman
CICCONE Giulio
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz
SÜTTERLIN Jasha
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
SARREAU Marc
PRADES REVERTER Eduard
BAYLY Cameron
KUSS Sepp
CLEMENT Stef
LANGEVELD Sebastian
CAVENDISH Mark
DELAPLACE Anthony
VAN DER SANDE Tosh
DEVENYNS Dries
HAMILTON Lucas
GARCIA DE MATEOS RUBIO Vicente
DENIFL Stefan
BODNAR Maciej
SINKELDAM Ramon
ORTEGA RAMIREZ Mauricio
BURGHARDT Marcus
KEISSE Iljo
MEYER Cameron
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
BAUGNIES Jérôme
MULLEN Ryan
BIBBY Ian
LEVEAU Jérémy
IMPEY Daryl
VALLS FERRI Rafael
KONOVALOVAS Ignatas
GONÇALVES Jose Isidro Maciel
DE PLUS Laurens
KUMP Marko
BOUDAT Thomas
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan
LAMMERTINK Maurits
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes
REICHENBACH Sébastien
TOUZE Damien
BERTAZZO Liam
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey
KIRSCH Alex
BOONEN Tom
ROELANDTS Jürgen
LEBAS Thomas
MOLARD Rudy
WARBASSE Larry
CUMMINGS Stephen
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel
VERMOTE Julien
CASTELIJNS Twan
RUTKIEWICZ Marek
COOPER Joseph
MASNADA Fausto
GAUTIER Cyril
SICARD Romain
FEILLU Brice
CECCHIN Alberto
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
STETINA Peter
ROUX Anthony
BOSWELL Ian
COQUARD Bryan
CONTI Valerio
KÄMNA Lennard
LE BON Johan
DEBESAY Mekseb Abraha
ÖRKEN Ahmet
LAMBRECHT Bjorg
MORTON Lachlan
FORMOLO Davide
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
LIEPINS Emils
EIKING Odd Christian
STRAKHOV Dmitry
POWLESS Neilson
MANNION Gavin
GRIVKO Andriy
SANTAROMITA Ivan
DOWSETT Alex
BENNATI Daniele
PACHER Quentin
DUPONT Hubert
BARTA Jan
MARTENS Paul
OSS Daniel
ROSA Diego
GATTO Oscar
SHILOV Sergey
DEVRIENDT Tom
TALANSKY Andrew
LIENHARD Fabian
RUIJGH Rob
BATTAGLIN Enrico
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos
VENDRAME Andrea
PEYSKENS Dimitri
GOUGEARD Alexis
CLAEYS Dimitri
REBELLIN Davide
TEUNISSEN Mike
GAUDIN Damien
ZIELINSKI Kamil
HANSEN Lasse Norman
PEREZ Anthony
DOULL Owain
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
SCOTSON Miles
DE KLEIJN Arvid
STORER Michael
PELUCCHI Matteo
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
CATALDO Dario
TOTO Paolo
LAWLESS Christopher
MINALI Riccardo
TOLHOEK Antwan
GAFFURINI Nicola
COSNEFROY Benoit
MONFORT Maxime
PARDINI Olivier
OFFREDO Yoann
SKUJINS Toms
ROSSKOPF Joey
ELISSONDE Kenny
PERNSTEINER Hermann
POLJANSKI Pawel
WALSCHEID Maximilian
GRMAY Tsgabu Gebremaryam
BOGDANOVICS Maris
TOFT MADSEN Martin
HOFSTEDE Lennard
GESBERT Elie
BELLETTI Manuel
THWAITES Scott
GENE Yohann
BOUWMAN Koen
ERVITI OLLO Imanol
DE NEGRI Pierpaolo
BOL Jetse
VLIEGEN Loïc
HUCKER Robbie
PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
KOSHEVOY Ilia
O'CONNOR Ben
SCARPONI Michele
POZZATO Filippo
TAARAMÄE Rein
VILELA Ricardo Augusto Afonso
BRAVO OIARBIDE Garikoitz
BEVIN Patrick
EISENHART Taylor
BENTA Joao Ricardo Cardoso
VERMEERSCH Gianni
SEPULVEDA Eduardo
VAN ASBROECK Tom
DELFOSSE Sébastien
GASTAUER Ben
VAN POPPEL Boy
SBARAGLI Kristian
SPRENGERS Thomas
BYSTRØM Sven Erik
MINNAARD Marco
CARPENTER Robin
CLARKE Jonathan
ASSELMAN Jesper
OWSIAN Lukasz
VAN DER LIJKE Nick
REINDERS Elmar
CELANO Danilo
JARAMILLO DIEZ Daniel Alexander
COMBAUD Romain
NEILANDS Krists
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
CLARKE Simon
PELLIZOTTI Franco
DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor
HOULE Hugo
HAGEN Carl Fredrik
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
VAN GENECHTEN Jonas
EDMONDSON Alexander
CUNEGO Damiano
EL FARES Julien
MUCELLI Davide
DOCKER Mitchell
LAGKUTI Sergiy
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel
MANZIN Lorrenzo
MEIJERS Jeroen
WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads
HOLLENSTEIN Reto
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
TOFFALI Nicola
MARQUE PORTO Alejandro Manuel
BAUER Jack
GROSU Eduard-Michael
MRAOUNI Salah Eddine
DEL PINO CORROCHANO Jesus
LE CUNFF Kévin
MIN Kyeong Ho
DOMAGALSKI Karol Andrzej
TESHOME Meron Hagos
ZOIDL Riccardo
VANGSTAD Andreas
LOOIJ André
KRIEGER Alexander
PETILLI Simone
RIVERA SERRANO Kevin
WYNANTS Maarten
SAGAN Juraj
HOLLER Nikodemus
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor
LAUK Karl Patrick
ZANOTTI Marco
TROSINO Mirko
HEPBURN Michael
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
HAYMAN Mathew
HERRADA LOPEZ Jose
GODOY Yonder Eduardo
HERKLOTZ Silvio
DE MAAR Marc
FERNANDEZ CRUZ Delio
HOEM Bjørn Tore Nilsen
BANASZEK Alan
GOGL Michael
SCHLEGEL Michal
MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian
BOLE Grega
ZEITS Andrey
BARBIN Enrico
MENUT David
NORRIS Lachlan
LECROQ Jérémy
DE MARCHI Alessandro
GUARDIOLA TORA Salvador
KAMP Alexander
FERASSE Thibault
EVTUSHENKO Alexander
GRELLIER Fabien
KREDER Raymond
MERLIER Tim
HOFSTETTER Hugo
 
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Wow that looks like a good team Netsey! Only I think Contador retired? Fortunately we still have the revision deadline so you can change your team!
 
Actually, I had too little time to think about a team before New Year, and I didn't want to make a mediocre one, so you'll have to wait a year to see my next team ;)

I'm suspecting that fermi tried to do an Ospina by planting Porte's name though. Damn, I miss Ryo.
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
I never thought the statistics part could influence anyone's decision-making (after all, it's been a part of the conversation in the thread since the earliest editions and I don't recall any complaints about it before), but I acknowledge that it is indeed an issue if some would revise their teams because of that, so yeah it's probably better to not share those until after the reveal. I'm completely on line with those stating that name-dropping shouldn't be allowed until after the reveal as well.
You are correct, but it used to be just points brackets. Then some guys just posted nationalities.

Then, they started to post points, nationalities, teams, age brackets etc all in one post,

C'mon guys, we are not little kids that can't wait one day for Santa :D
 
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Squire said:
I don't mind the previews. If someone needs to look at the nationalities of other teams to discover an obvious pick, they won't win the game anyway.
Agree. I look at other people's statistics out of interest to see how they compare to mine, but I would never revise my team because of it. I get why if you have 0 Italians and see everyone has 10, you'd go back to check, but as you say if they'd overlooked that many they'll have overlooked others.
Have to say though that each year, there are two or three riders in my team of whom I think "oi, if I post their nationality they'll be super easy to guess".
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Squire said:
I don't mind the previews. If someone needs to look at the nationalities of other teams to discover an obvious pick, they won't win the game anyway.
Agree. I look at other people's statistics out of interest to see how they compare to mine, but I would never revise my team because of it. I get why if you have 0 Italians and see everyone has 10, you'd go back to check, but as you say if they'd overlooked that many they'll have overlooked others.
Have to say though that each year, there are two or three riders in my team of whom I think "oi, if I post their nationality they'll be super easy to guess".
On the flipside, I'm delighted to note that a few of my picks are not in any of the 'teased' teams, based on nationalities/team.
 
Gigs_98 said:
Stop it guys. We still haven't reached the deadline and you are already openly discussing which riders you took. It's really not the point of the game that everyone changes his team on the last day because he can read everywhere which riders he missed
My understanding of the rules is that you can only change your team after the submisison deadline if skidmark finds an error (like the team being over 7.500 points). Is that not so?
 
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My first CQ team from 2011 ... I remember spending about 10 minutes on this team and was mostly picking guys I like. It was like building my dream classics team having Cancellara, O'Grady, Boonen, etc :D

some names I already completely forgot about :eek:

BARTA Jan NetApp CZE 63
BOONEN Tom Quickstep BEL 777
BOS Theo Rabobank NED 182
BRUTT Pavel Katusha RUS 91
CANCELLARA Fabian Leopard SUI 1559
CAPECCHI Eros Liquigas ITA 137
CHAMPION Dimitri Ag2r FRA 95
CHICCHI Francesco Quickstep ITA 287
DESSEL Cyril Ag2r FRA 80
HAUSSLER Heinrich Garmin AUS 251
HOOGERLAND Johnny Vacansoleil NED 452
HUTAROVICH Yauheni FDJ BLR 370
KING Benjamin Radioshack USA 149
KREUZIGER Roman Astana CZE 839
LÖFKVIST Thomas Sky SWE 319
MAASKANT Martijn Garmin NED 118
O'GRADY Stuart Leopard AUS 88
PELLIZOTTI Franco Movistar ITA 60
PHINNEY Taylor BMC USA 217
RABON Frantisek HTC CZE 243
RENSHAW Mark HTC AUS 106
SUTHERLAND Rory UnitedHealthcare AUS 92
TALANSKY Andrew Garmin USA 76
TAARAMÄE Rein Cofidis EST 383
VANDE VELDE Christian Garmin USA 90
WIGGINS Bradley Sky GBR 376

TOTAL: 7500

Funny, I think some of the same names are on my 2018 team too :eek:
 

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