The 2021 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

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In order to win the green jersey, in addition to Colbrelli and Evenepoel continuing to win races, I need other cyclists to also make good positions: Alaphilippe, Moscon, Adam Yates, Mollema ... and perhaps someone else like Higuita, who until today has not scored much. We will have excitement until the last day.
 
Object and Squire have 17 riders in common, and therefore each of them has 16 men who could make a difference. I am not abreast of who has declared their season over (Umba is out with a broken arm for Object, Hermans is busy with cyclocross that won't get him any points for Squire), but some are definitely still going, and future participations of the relevant riders, according to PCS, are as follows:


For Object
BJERG Mikkel
CAVENDISH Mark
DE PLUS Laurens
EVENEPOEL RemcoIl Lombardia
FROOME ChrisMilano-Torino, Lombardia, Agostino
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
HAIG JackLombardia
LEKNESSUND AndreasLombardia
POLITT Nils
SIVAKOV PavelMilano-Torino, Lombardia
TERPSTRA NikiParis-Bourges, Paris-Tours
THOMAS Geraint
UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago
VANSEVENANT MauriMilano-Torino, Lombardia
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN JonasLombardia
WELLENS TimLombardia
for Squire
BOL CeesParis-Tours
COLBRELLI SonnyGran Piemonte
DUPONT Timothy
GAUDU DavidMilano-Torino, Lombardia
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
HERMANS Quinten
HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
KRISTOFF Alexander
MATTHEWS Michael
MEEUS JordiParis-Bourges, Paris-Tours
NAESEN Oliver
SARREAU Marc
STEWART JakeParis-Bourges
THIJSSEN Gerben
VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael
But the startlist for Drenthe has not been populated yet...



Does that really give Squire scope for gaining 213 points?


And is there any prospect that the riders on Total Package's team that are not on the other podium occupants' squads could move him above the third step (378 to catch Squire, 591 to reach Object)?

ALEOTTI Giovannineither
BOL Ceesnot Object
COLBRELLI Sonnynot Object
DE PLUS Laurensnot Squire
FROOME Chrisnot Squire
GALLOPIN Tonyneither
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernandonot Squire
GENIEZ Alexandreneither
GROVES Kadenneither
MÄDER Ginoneither
MATTHEWS Michaelnot Object
NAESEN Olivernot Object
OOMEN Samneither
POLITT Nilsnot Squire
SARREAU Marcnot Object
VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michaelnot Object
VAN AVERMAET Gregneither
VIVIANI Elianeither
YATES Adamneither

I think our positions are set.
And I'm hoping to hang on to my top 20.
 
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How did you get minus points like that?
It happens if CQ changes/corrects the name of the rider in their database. It then has to be updated in the spreadsheet used, if not the rider in question will go from the points he had scored so far during the year to zero.

On another note, Pogacar has now gained the highest number of CQ points within a year since the game started, 3376p. He has some 1300p more this year compared to 2020. But would he have been a good pick? I mean, selecting four 500p riders all going up to 850p wil give you a higher profit. Then again, you have to get all four right.
 
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It happens if CQ changes/corrects the name of the rider in their database. It then has to be updated in the spreadsheet used, if not the rider in question will go from the points he had scored so far during the year to zero.

On another note, Pogacar has now gained the highest number of CQ points within a year since the game started, 3376p. He has some 1300p more this year compared to 2020. But would he have been a good pick? I mean, selecting four 500p riders all going up to 850p wil give you a higher profit. Then again, you have to get all four right.
Pogacar would have been an awesome pick. Of course Gaudu, Asgreen, Stuyven and Merlier (for instance) would have yieled a higher return, but as you mention, you have to pick four riders who all have to improve quite a bit - it's very likely that you'll have a miss or two in there. You also get to pick three 0'ish pointers to go with Pogacar in those four slots.
 
Object and Squire have 17 riders in common, and therefore each of them has 16 men who could make a difference. I am not abreast of who has declared their season over (Umba is out with a broken arm for Object, Hermans is busy with cyclocross that won't get him any points for Squire), but some are definitely still going, and future participations of the relevant riders, according to PCS, are as follows:


For Object
BJERG Mikkel
CAVENDISH Mark
DE PLUS Laurens
EVENEPOEL RemcoIl Lombardia
FROOME ChrisMilano-Torino, Lombardia, Agostino
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
HAIG JackLombardia
LEKNESSUND AndreasLombardia
POLITT Nils
SIVAKOV PavelMilano-Torino, Lombardia
TERPSTRA NikiParis-Bourges, Paris-Tours
THOMAS Geraint
UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago
VANSEVENANT MauriMilano-Torino, Lombardia
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN JonasLombardia
WELLENS TimLombardia
for Squire
BOL CeesParis-Tours
COLBRELLI SonnyGran Piemonte
DUPONT Timothy
GAUDU DavidMilano-Torino, Lombardia
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
HERMANS Quinten
HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
KRISTOFF Alexander
MATTHEWS Michael
MEEUS JordiParis-Bourges, Paris-Tours
NAESEN Oliver
SARREAU Marc
STEWART JakeParis-Bourges
THIJSSEN Gerben
VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael
But the startlist for Drenthe has not been populated yet...



Does that really give Squire scope for gaining 213 points?
I took a look at this too, but I have Thijssen, Halvorsen, Stewart down for Paris-Tours as well for Squire, and there seems to be little info in participating riders (or even teams) in next week's .1 races. With Meeus on quite the form and with Paris-Tours being less hard than it used to be, I can sort of see a path. It would require Remco to not simply win, for Wellens to be relatively anonymous, and for Gaudu to top 10 (or preferably top 5) in Lombardia. Then if Meeus, Bol, Halvorsen and Stewart show well enough in P-T, it could be pretty close after this week (Meeus has already gained Squire 80 for Paris-Bourges). Then next week is a lottery of who is still racing, but if it's within 100 points or so it could be doable. I dunno, could Jordi Meeus be the key to the biggest comeback in CQ history?
 
I took a look at this too, but I have Thijssen, Halvorsen, Stewart down for Paris-Tours as well for Squire, and there seems to be little info in participating riders (or even teams) in next week's .1 races. With Meeus on quite the form and with Paris-Tours being less hard than it used to be, I can sort of see a path. It would require Remco to not simply win, for Wellens to be relatively anonymous, and for Gaudu to top 10 (or preferably top 5) in Lombardia. Then if Meeus, Bol, Halvorsen and Stewart show well enough in P-T, it could be pretty close after this week (Meeus has already gained Squire 80 for Paris-Bourges). Then next week is a lottery of who is still racing, but if it's within 100 points or so it could be doable. I dunno, could Jordi Meeus be the key to the biggest comeback in CQ history?
Gaudu outscoring both Evenepoel and Vingegaard at Lombardia!

The finale of Paris-Tours will now be very exciting ...
 
Update #37: Things get even tighter! But... overall standings remain the same, while Green Jersey has new leader

We are almost done! A few small races as epilogue remain, and the real question for those still following the CQ game is - who do I even have that is riding? With most riders packing it in and with start lists not even posted 12 hours before races, the last week may be a little bit of a lottery. But as we will see, there are a few people in the overall and Green Jersey who may still be able to cash in on that lottery ticket.

This Week's Top Scorers


RankTeamPoints this week
118-Valve. (pithy)736
2EvansIsTheBest734
3Jon_Ezeitza706
4Northerner677
5Nevs663

It was a monumental week in the literal sense that there was the last Monument of the season, and it was a monumental end to the season for the 2 players in this game who took Tadej Pogacar. At a cost of 2044, he was one of the most expensive picks that has ever been picked in this game, but with a final season total of 3656, he ends up (checks notes) with the highest yearly CQ score that has been recorded since CQ started up as a website. So... he was a pretty good pick. And this week's winner takes the top spot by 2 points, something that would have been 278 points short without the dominant Slovenian youngster's win in Lombardia. 18-Valve.(pithy) actually benefits even more from Pogacar, as there was basically a race every day in Italy last week and Pogacar by himself ended up with 404 on the week, which would be enough for 38th on the week without any other riders. But 18-Valve also was one of the 7 who picked Matt Walls, who got the win of his short career this week and the 130 CQ points that came with it. Add in 105 points from Alaphilippe, 41 from unique pick Hofstetter, and a smattering of others, and it was just enough for the win.

EvansIsTheBest just misses out, finishing two points back with a much broader group of scoring riders - tops was 170 from David Gaudu (19 teams), 108 from Sergio Higuita (30 teams), and 9 riders between 25 and 90 points, with familiar game names such as Bardet, Girmay, and Evenepoel, and others who shone brightest this week like Olav Kooij. Speaking of names that have been mentioned alot in this game, Jon Ezeitza gets another top weekly finish, rounding out the podium with 223 from Adam Yates, and then over 100 from the aforementioned Alaphilippe, Higuita and Walls.

This Week's High Movers


18-Valve doubles up, as does EITB on the podium. They're joined by Blues in the bottle, one of the five teams who benefitted from Fausto Masnada's career week and the 204 points that came with it.

Green Jersey Competition

RankTeamTotal
1Jon_Ezeitza290
2Otoxiep87285
3Bicycle_Boy266
4Hugo Koblet224.67
5Object218

Some last-minute shakeup here! Last week, Bicycle Boy was leading this by one point over Otoxiep87 and 5 overJon Ezeitza; this week it's reversed. Jon Ezeitza parlays 30 points for third into the lead of this competition, while Otoxiep87 stays in the game with 20 points for 6th on the week. With very little to go in this game, all it takes is a few good riders left on your squad to top a week, so any of these 3 could find themselves scraping out enough points to clinch the victory yet. There is a minuscule chance that someone further down could have a rare or unique rider who runs the table in the very few remaining races and takes 90 points for two weekly wins, but that is more like a literal lottery ticket chance even than my above analogy.

Top 10 Overall

RankUp/downTeamPoints
1(-)18855
2(-)Squire18773
3(-)Total Package18368
4(-)Northerner18123
5(-)Jon_Ezeitza17790
6(-)Otoxiep8717574
7(-)JPettersen17361
8(-)skidmark17045
9(+3)Crevaison16885
10(-1)tobydawq16844

After leading by 1200+ after the Vuelta, Object's lead over Squire is down to 82 points, meaning if Squire has a rider that Object doesn't who wins a 1.1 race plus 5 points somewhere else, the lead will be overturned. (Incidentally, today's 1.1 race was topped by Lutsenko followed by Trentin, who they both have, so that's a wash). Squire gained 131 points this week to make it an incredible nailbiter - I am sure both teams are furiously refreshing startlist sites to see if they have anyone riding. With the season tailing off the lists often switch up last minute as riders change their minds, and we may have a repeat of whatever year it was when Jos Van Emden scored some points in an obscure post-Lombardia race to overturn the top 2 of the game.

Below that, there's no movement in the top 8 and everyone looks pretty set in their place. Still a battle for the top 10, with 9th and 10th quite close, and 11th only 70 points back. Crevaison comes back into the top 10 while Galpedal falls out.

This week there are a few 1.1 and one 1.Pro race in Italy and France, and a curveball I just realized in the British nationals! After that, well then that's pretty much it! It seems that the last .1 or higher race is the lone Ronde van Drenthe on the 24th, which would signal the end of this year's game. It's been great so far, thanks all for playing, and I look forward to see what the final table looks like!

spreadsheet at dropbox
 
As of right now, of their differentiating picks, Object has Evenepoel at Chrono des Nations, Cavendish at the British RR and Froome at the TT, while Squire only has Stewart at the RR and that's it. With the new British champion only being awarded 60 CQ points this year, that would make it mathematically impossible for the lead to change. The French races already have a provisional startlist up and I strongly doubt any of Squire's riders will start in Italy or Drenthe given the teams they're on, so it would take a miracle at this point for Object to lose this.
 
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As of right now, of their differentiating picks, Object has Evenepoel at Chrono des Nations, Cavendish at the British RR and Froome at the TT, while Squire only has Stewart at the RR and that's it. With the new British champion only being awarded 60 CQ points this year, that would make it mathematically impossible for the lead to change. The French races already have a provisional startlist up and I strongly doubt any of Squire's riders will start in Italy or Drenthe given the teams they're on, so it would take a miracle at this point for Object to lose this.
Thank you for posting this, and I hope you are right.. I was just about to do the same check.

I am still holding my breath, as the latest surge by squire has made this very exiting to the very end!!
 
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During this week the participation of Evenepoel, Viviani, Trentin, Boudat and Havik in different races is announced. I hope they give me enough points to be able to secure the green jersey.
 
As of right now, of their differentiating picks, Object has Evenepoel at Chrono des Nations, Cavendish at the British RR and Froome at the TT, while Squire only has Stewart at the RR and that's it. With the new British champion only being awarded 60 CQ points this year, that would make it mathematically impossible for the lead to change. The French races already have a provisional startlist up and I strongly doubt any of Squire's riders will start in Italy or Drenthe given the teams they're on, so it would take a miracle at this point for Object to lose this.
Dupont is on the provisional startlist for Drenthe. Given the weak field, it's very possible Object will now need to maintain the current gap this week. What hasn't changed, is that Evenepoel winning the Chrono des Nations ends the game, and second, third or fourth means Squire needs both Stewart and Dupont to win their respective races without Cavendish scoring too much (assuming Froome didn't score today, the full results still aren't out). So it's probably a race only mathematically, but still.
 
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With the title and podium seemingly decided, all eyes naturally turn to the battle for the remaining places in the top ten.

Skidmark seems safe in 8th place? I think the points from Trentin, Viviani and Calmejane have moved my team into 9th or 10th. It's all coming down to the last three races, two of which are tomorrow.
 
With the title and podium seemingly decided, all eyes naturally turn to the battle for the remaining places in the top ten.

Skidmark seems safe in 8th place? I think the points from Trentin, Viviani and Calmejane have moved my team into 9th or 10th. It's all coming down to the last three races, two of which are tomorrow.
Three races tomorrow actually! Boucles de l'Aulne, Veneto Classic, and the British NCRR.
 
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Update #38: It's Almost Over

This week was a bit of a denouement, with most riders packing up after the last three weekends of the Worlds, Roubaix, Lombardia. But there were a smattering of 1.1 races in Italy and France, as well as a 1.Pro as well. But of course, with most of the riders ending their season already, the impact on the game was a bit muted.

This Week's Top Scorers

RankTeamPoints this week
1Nicosix397
2Kazistuta357
3zaka_fan339
4Bonimenier336
5karaev332
5shalgo332

A game vet takes the top spot this week, as Nicosix outscores all with just under 400 points. This is in no small part due to the best unique pick of the week, as Arne Marit (cost of 14 points) took 130 points for a surprising win over Viviani and Coquard in the 1.PS GP Morbihan, the most points on offer this week. Nicosix also had the somewhat more popular Alexey Lutsenko, who got another 121 points to add to his fine season. Add 66 for Viviani and 60 for Ethan Hayter (speaking of adding to fine seasons), plus 20 more for Latour and that's a good week. Kazistuta is 40 points back in 2nd place from Lutsenko, 101 from Trentin, Viviani and 49 from the impressive looking Alberto Dainese. zaka fan ends in 3rd thanks to some of the above plus 48 from Marc Hirschi.

This Week's High Movers

RankTeamUp/down
1ray10(+5)
1greenedge(+5)
1LaFlorecita(+5)
4Salvarani(+4)
4Boris98(+4)

The moves are small at this point in the season, but ray10, greenedge and Laflorecita at least get a late season moment in the sun by moving up 5 spots each.

Green Jersey Competition

RankTeamTotal
1Jon_Ezeitza290
2Otoxiep87285
3Bicycle_Boy266
4Hugo Koblet234.67
5Object222

This competition has been a wild ride the last few weeks, but none of the top 3 overall finished in the top 15 on the week to get points. Hugo Koblet picked up 10 points to pull a bit closer in 4th, and Object scored 4 points to inch closer to everyone above but Hugo, but neither of them are within a weekly win (45 points) of the overall lead. With one week left, it looks like it's between the top 3 technically and the top 2 actually (and maybe even more actually nobody will have riders riding, so it might just stay the same).

Top 10 Overall

RankUp/downTeamPoints
1(-)19129
2(-)Squire19015
3(-)Total Package18676
4(-)Northerner18293
5(-)Jon_Ezeitza18009
6(-)Otoxiep8717643
7(-)JPettersen17586
8(-)skidmark17264
9(+4)Boris9817009
10(+2)postmanhat17002

It got oh so close, but it wasn't to be for Squire, as the startlists told a stark tale as they were released. Although both of the top 2 had weeks in the top 25 overall, most of their points were from riders they had in common - 121 from Lutsenko, 101 from Trentin, 20 from Latour. The only difference was that Object had 36 additional points from Evenepoel's somewhat underwhelming result in Chrono de Nations. Object is now 114 points up, and with 80 points on the docket for the win at Ronde van Drenthe, Squire would need a few top placings of non-shared riders to overcome the deficit. The startlist as of now shows one rider on Squire's team (Dupont) that is not on Object's, so if nothing changes, it will be mathematically impossible (barring something crazy like a sudden doping case or retroactive disqualification causing prior races and their points to shuffle).

Just on a technical point though - this game is designed to end after the last .1 or higher race in the year, with the specific wording (from the first post in this thread) reading:

**An extension will be granted to the end of season if it is very close at the top. If any teams are within 100 points of the leader after the last major race, the season will be automatically extended until the final race of the year unless all teams within 100 points explicitly concede. As well, anyone in the top 10 can extend the season by PMing me a request to do so before the last major race starts.

That means if Squire gains 14 points or more on Object in Drenthe, the results will default to being unofficial until the end of the calendar year. As well, I have usually conceptualized the 'last major race' as being .1 or higher. However, there appears to be a 2.1 race from December 1st-6th called "The Princess Maha Chakri Srindhorn's Cup Tour of Thailand" (I wonder if they call it TPMCSCTOT for short). If the lead remains above 100 points, I'm inclined to not consider this potential race in Thailand as a 'major' race and close the season after Drenthe. Feedback welcome on this technical point.

We are almost through this ride! I hope you've all had a fun season and are looking forward to next season already.

spreadsheet at dropbox
 
Skidmark, thanks for running this game again this year. Always fun.

As crazy as this is, I had 3 riders score points here to more or less end the season. More insane is that the points scored by 1 of the 3 riders put him into positive territory for the season.
 
Squeaking in to the top ten in the penultimate week. Well done team.

I think I'm safe as no one else just behind has Groniwegen for Drenthe tomorrow, and I have Dupont. And a Taco Sunday would see me move up to ninth. Shame it isn't on TV so I could cheer him on like one of his relatives or dedicated fan groups.
 
Update #39: The End

It has been a wonderful year of racing, with things almost sorta kinda back to normal on the racing front (although not quite - see the end of this post). The curtain came down on the European season this week in somewhat muted fashion - after a flurry of 'end of season' races in previous weeks, the lone men's race of the week was the not-even-televised 1.1 Ronde Van Drenthe. Of course, as most riders had ended their seasons and only a couple of teams participating above continental level, it had very limited impact on the game. But with that, the final standings have crystallized, and we have a winner!

This Week's Top Scorers

RankTeamPoints this week
1AlyKaptan80
1Vipps80
3Wallenquist40
4Nicosix32
5VeloRooms22

Two teams had picked Rune Herregodts this year, a rider who I freely admit as a cycling fanatic that I had not heard of until yesterday. And it pays off today! AlyKaptan and Vipps share the spotlight on Rune's 80 points for the breakaway victory, enough to get a weekly win on this final week. Wallenquist was the only team to pick Groenwegen this year and so gets his 40 points for third, which is enough for third as well this week. Thirteen teams had a rider score points this week, so obviously the standings didn't move too much.

This Week's High Movers


RankTeamUp/down
1Vipps(+6)
2AlyKaptan(+3)
3DJ Sprtsch(+2)
4Wallenquist(+1)
4postmanhat(+1)
4Nicosix(+1)
4VeloRooms(+1)

However, co-winner Vipps is the solo winner here, and managed to move up 6 places on those 80 points! Quite a remarkable movement for the last week, and it moves Vipps into the top 30 overall to boot. Below, Alykaptan and DJ Sprtsch round out the podium.

Just a note on this ranking - this is the last time it will appear in an update. I've realized that with declining participation in the game, there's not as many spaces to move as there were when we had 130+ teams. So I'm retiring this ranking, although for those stat-heads I'll still keep it on the sheet in future years since it's already there.

Green Jersey Competition

RankTeamTotal
1Jon_Ezeitza290
2Otoxiep87285
3Bicycle_Boy266
4Hugo Koblet234.67
5Object222

Well, it was a very close and topsy-turvy race in the final weeks, but in the end nobody scored very much at the top in the last couple of weeks of the game. No points in the top 5 this week, and the only team scoring in the top 10 was postmanhat with 4 points in 6th overall. Congratulations to Jon Ezeitza, winner of the Green Jersey 2021!

Top 10 Overall

RankUp/downTeamPoints
1(-)19129
2(-)Squire19015
3(-)Total Package18676
4(-)Northerner18293
5(-)Jon_Ezeitza18009
6(-)Otoxiep8717643
7(-)JPettersen17586
8(-)skidmark17264
9(-)Boris9817009
9(+1)postmanhat17009

The only team in the top 10 scoring any points this week was postmanhat, getting 7 points from Taco Van Der Hoorn, which happened to be just the exact amount needed to move up one spot into a tie for 9th place overall!

Of course, that lack of movement confirms what we saw last week - Object is the winner of the CQ Ranking Manager Game 2021! It was a hard fought final stretch, and Squire almost closed an unfathomable gap. Congrats to Squire and Total Package for podium spots as well.

I'll follow up with more breakdown of the game and news for next year (still not sure when the season is starting with the Aussie races cancelled or postponed again), but for this post, let's celebrate our top teams of 2021.

spreadsheet at dropbox
 

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